Broncos president and CEO Pat Bowlen today announced the club will begin negotiations to trade the rights to the disgruntled quarterback.
"Numerous attempts to contact Jay Cutler in the last 10 days, both by Head Coach Josh McDaniels and myself, have been unsuccessful," Bowlen said in a statement released to the media.
"A conversation with his agent earlier today clearly communicated and confirmed to us that Jay no longer has any desire to play for the Denver Broncos. We will begin discussions with other teams in an effort to accommodate his request to be traded."
The 49ers failed in their bid to acquire free-agent Kurt Warner during the opening week of free agency. The 49ers have plenty of cap room to acquire Cutler and sign him to a long-term extension. The big question is whether they can come up with the compensation to appease the Broncos.
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Let's go get HIM!!!!
Matt,
What do you think the Broncos will be asking for him??? Just picks??
I just wrote this in the last post:
Where do we sign. Seriously, it would be worth our 1st, 3rd, Alex Smith or Shaun Hill and next years 2nd and 3rd. Cutler is great. Our QB's are not great. The NFL is a QB league. There just aren't many teams who win championships without a great QB, and the niners will be no different. If they don't get Cutler, they still will need to address the QB issue, unless Smith turns out great and he has a LOT of work to do. Cutler is proven. I'll be surprised if they don't at least give it a shot. They were willing to give Warner 15mil per year, and he is almost done playing(I know Kurt was a free agent). Cutler would change everything for the Niners. The NFC West is so poor that they would be instant contenders. Three way deal with the Browns is possible as well.
PFT states we are one of the several teams interested, Bucs, Lions, Jets, are some of the others...
We need this....we need to have a solid QB position....It's been too long.
Trade the 10th pick and next year 1st for him. Then with are remaining picks fill are holes. We would be playoff bound!
Whatever it takes, within reason, every effort should be made. The hardest part is not the compensation to Denver, the hardest part is convincing Cutler and his agent to join our sinking ship. OCs ran for the hills after meeting with the reverend Mike and McSpineless. The 49ers under the Yorks are no longer a prime destination for great young players.
Strongly agree with you and Yummy. I usually don't, but I can't argue this time. This is an amazing oppertunity for the Niners. They can still be physical with an F and have Cutler throwing the ball.
Instead of flying to SoCal, McC should fly to Tennesse or wherever Cutler is hiding out and meet w/Buss, LOL.
As far as Cleveland goes, Quinn is the guy the Browns paid dearly for so why move him when he barely started to play last year and show progress? I realize Cutler's better at this stage but CLE gave up a boatload for Quinn.
Detroit can use him but Denver doesn't have the dough to for the #1 pricetag. They can try to trade but not having a clearcut #1 overall pick, it'll be hard to try to entice others for a trade w/them knowing you can't pony up the loot.
Jacksonville might have the ammo but, c'mon it's Jacksonville...
Which brings us to SF. The #10 pick is a reasonable pick that doesn't break your bank. We trade the #10, the #2 next year and Shawn Hill. The Alex Smith lovers would be appeased, Denver gets a serviceable QB, Sanchez would probably fall to them, and they get a #2 as well. If they didn't want Hill, I'd offer Lawson and an additional mid-round pick. Call me crazy but what's he done to make him untouchable?
Please don't give me the "He was injured and playing out of position bull..." He couldn't get on the field last year on 3rd downs! Ummm, that's not good. If he goes to Denver and turns into Julian Petersen in SEA I could live w/that as long as we get a franchise QB in return. What if he stays here and turns into the guy who couldn't get on the field last year on 3rd downs?
CHI and NYJ are possibilities but their picks won't land Sanchez or Stratford.
If we can try to get Warner, we can defintely try for Cutler. Cutler is the ONLY reason Denver won 7 games last year. W/out him, Denver's picking in the top 5 of the '09 draft.
I agree 100%. This is a perfect opportunity. Whatever it takes, it'll be worth it...hopefully!
CUTLER = PLAYOFFS!!! Ship Vernon to Cleveland, Quinn to Denver, Cutler to San Fran!!
If the 49ers can get him for the right price great, but he is pretty inconsistent. He looks great some games and others I don't know what he is doing.
Forget that cry baby. The diffrence between getting Warner and Cutler is draft picks. Getting Warner wouldn't have cost us half the draft, Cutler would. Do you guys really think we will give away more than Detroit? If we can cut a deal for Cutler like KC did for Cassel sign me up. If its a first, first and whatever I'll pass.
But this whole thing about being so BUTT hurt that he wont return calls really gives me pause. Are you professional football player or a little girl? What happens the first time he is asked to hand off the ball 15 times because we are going into the 4th quarter with a 10 point lead....yikes.
Yes, let's repeat history with Cutler (history in this case being the trade for O.J. Simpson). Why not offer Denver our 1st and 2nd round picks for the next three years. It won't matter as we'll be in the Super Bowl all three of those years. All we need is Cutler.
yummy,
2 #1 picks?
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Hate to say it but we're pretty outgunned in the race for Cutler, and the LAST thing we need to do is give up all our draft picks for him. I see Cutler going to Detroit or the Jets. And remember, when Denver gives him up they need to ask themselves who will play QB for them instead?
Sing and McCheese, don't give away the ship to get him.....
Like I said this is gonna be an interesting draft.
Just what has Cutler done that our current QBs haven't done?
Keep the picks, Trade down for more if we can, keep adding depth.
We aren't a QB away from winning anything this season like perhaps, the Jets are.
If Alex were allowed to walk I'd be all for the QB, but the fact that he's been restructured suggests to me they want to see where this goes.
If we part with picks we disrupt the chance to add in other areas of need.
He is much more consistant against GREAT teams than any QB we have. Hill did well against AZ, but Cutler wouldn't have even been in that position against AZ, imo. It would be great to get Cutler.
Cutler made it to a pro bowl. Our QB's haven't sniffed a pro bowl. I'll support whoever our QB is, but you have to admit that a Cutler deal would give the team and fans a large shot of confidence. We can put off the other needs. Cutler is the real deal.
All of you Cutler fans...better check his stats...Oh yeah, 4500+ yards...But also, he threw for 40-50 attempts per game...Ofcourse, not to mention Mike shanahan's offense..I don't think thats power football...God forbid, he gets PO'D....
If I had a choice of Cutler or Sanchez for the Niners, I would choose Sanchez as the Niners will still be able to keep their picks and sure up the team.
Giving up picks this year and next year for Cutler will just weaken the team in my opinion.
Then again, there are still alot of stop-gap veteran talent available in FA now.
So Cutler could work, but honestly at what cost to the cap and the future of the team.
This is getting ABSURD!
You guys should really listen to yourselves my god!
I'm looking forward to the Lions, Browns & Jets to take Cutler off the Broncos hands.And the sooner the better so some of you guys can stop talking the CRAZY TALK.
First of all, does he want to come here when we are planning on playing a conservative run first football? We don't have the receivers he had in Denver nor the O Line. Remember our stats?
Pro Bowls are popularity picks, no hardware benefits.
I like Cutlers' arm, not his head.
I like Alex's arm, not his head.
I like my Draft position, it gets us a chance to pick in front of 22 other teams.
I like the prospect of one or more of those teams paying to buy our slot with more picks.
I like that we found Joe Montana in Rd 3.
Keep the picks, let someone else back up the money truck for Cutler.
Back the money truck up for Cutler, and revamp the Niners. Sorry my friend but I can't be convinced that it wouldn't be a massive upgrade.
Cutler will be expensive, of course: # 10 to start with, plus lots more. Denver is switching from a 4-3 defense to a 3-4, so maybe some of our 3-4 guys might interest them, Manny Lawson, Ike Sopaugoa, etc. Ultimately, I suspect it will take something like: # 10 in 2009, 2nd rounder in 2010 and Lawson.
Well worth it, 49ers - Get it done.
Notice the ones that don't want Culter are Alex Smith hommers!
yummy,
This has NOTHING to do with Alex. But it does have everything to do with giving away the store (2 #1 picks). "We got to keep the loonies of the Path"
Montana-to-Clark:
Why don't you do yourself and the rest of us a favor and find a team to cheer for that has a HC,Owner and GM that you like. None of the big 3 for the Niners is going anywhere . Jed will be the owner when you are in your grave,so get over it .
If you want to see the Niners do well then you had better hope good things for Jed and Scotty and Sing !!! If you hate them,as it sure sounds like you do,then that means you hate the niners,because THEY ARE THE NINERS and they are the future of the Niners!
And remember this next time you whine and cry like a little girl about how terrible these three are...Scotty has been GM only one year and Sing has been HC for under a year and Jed has been Owner/President for under a year.
Don't you get it,this IS the NEW regime NOW ! They just started ,at least give them time to show you what product they put on the field before you start whining!
Or else get another team !!!
I'm OK with Smith and Hill, I just think Cutler is way better, by miles. Franchise material. Smith and Hill could be 2nd and third on the depth chart. We'd have some good depth at QB.
I like the idea of trading down and accumulating some extra picks as well. If we can get another 2nd or 3rd I think we can put together some real pieces in this draft. Just like Walsh, Parcells or Jimmy Johnson would do.
You see, giving up our #10 is do-able. The broncos can still sign someone like Jeff Garcia, trade cutler for our #10, next years 2nd & cash. The broncos can use that cash to sign Garcia, use our #10 for Stafford or Sanchez...hell give them Huard, Shaun Hill, or Alex Smith. Although giving up Smith would be more unlikely. Mcloughan seems to like him too much.
Sing should be all over this! This would put us into serious contention next season.
Thank you! I second that.
I dont watch Cutler too much, but i dont think he can handle the pressure in crucial times like Hill did against STL. He just might be use to relying on that O-line. Sure hes got a great arm and throw, but when it comes down to it sustaining drives is more important. I dont think losing high draft picks is worth it, espaecially when you have 3 guys who also been a starter in the NFL
Come on you can do better than that-if you read Marc NJ49er's posts he is far from an Alex "Homer"-really this is silliness- as pointed out previously our bargaining chips are few and of too high a denomination .(Before you start pointing your finger at me I'll make it abundantly clear I'm pulling for Shaun this year and a drafted QB -either Mike Reilly or Greg Micheli) -too many areas need to be addressed and need balanced consideration before we get hasty and possibly remorseful over one player!
This team is NOT a QB away from doing anything miraculous.
You part with picks, you part with depth in other areas.
Take a look at the Pats. Tom Brady, what Round? Matt Cassel, what Round?
How many picks do the Pats hold RIGHT NOW? (12)
They accumulate picks, we should hand some away to Denver?
Makes no fiscal sense. Shaun or Alex can handle the chores for a whole lot less.
Unquestionably, Cutler would be a MAJOR UPGRADE at the game's most important position.
The more I think about it, the cost might well be # 10 in 2009, plus a 1st round pick in 2010, plus DE Kentwan Balmer, plus Alex Smith.
But Cutler would be worth it - And despite some "sky-is-falling" comments above, the type of trade would NOT criple future prospects.
There is no guarantee that they can handle the chores. Cutler can handle the chores for a decade or more.
4 picks for a 2nd to 3rd tier QB is NOT alright, in my opinion. I agree that he'd be a huge upgrade but you guys need to get ahold of yourselves. He's a gunslinger, and he's been to the Pro Bowl, and I'd be very excited to see him in Red & Gold, but not at the cost of 4 picks - this is a guy who threw 25 TD's and 18 INT's last year. Above average (right?) but certainly not MVP-like.
In our offense, you can cut his picks in half. He would probably throw 22 TD's and 8 or 9 picks, and we would walk into the playoffs. Our conservative approach would bring out the best of Cutler IMO.
Trade for Brady, he has something I would pay for.
Maybe McNabb too.
I don't like losing picks, our Draft history hasn't been all that productive as it is, more picks works for me, not less.
Exactly. We can't draft very well. All the more reason to try for Cutler, rather than waste those picks. We got Gore & Willis. That is all I have been satisfied with.
I knew this was coming...the "let's get him" mantra. I'm not opposed to it...but before we trade away half our draft picks, I'd suggest folks step back a bit and look at this situation completely objectively. The Warner affair was simply money...this time, it's players and/or draft picks...most likely a bunch of 'em. I'd like to see us make a legitimate offer...but not sell the farm...NO single player's worth it, including Cutler.
Fix the OL, get a DE and NT.
Too many other areas to sure up IMO.
I appreciate the sentiment for Cutler, but Denver should be held up (not paid), to take Cutler.
They should have zero leverage in this screw up, but too many people will go GA-GA for a strong arm and a Mike Shanahan pass happy scheme.
Stats schmatz, if Cutler can't McDaniels happy there's a red flag attached
I'm glad the Cutler thing is not going to happen.The Vikings should take him;they are about a qb away from making a serious run.If we needed an OT,a ballhawk,a receiver,a thumper and more pass rush yesterday,we would still need them after selling the farm for Cutler.Plus, we wouldn't have money for necessary re-signings this year.
If Cutler's nose is out of joint over Trade talks, what might the scenario look like if Sing got up in his grill like he did with Vernon?
Cutler holds himself in high esteem, but wins some important games when it matters and people will follow your lead.
If we can get cutler for the right price i say we get him...but im positive a lot of GM'S are callen the broncos right now and hopefully Mcclueless is one of em!!
That's the argument, Right Price.
Our line has to protect and we need help there.
Marvel might be an improvement, Alex might be Superman.
Stick with S Hill! We don't want to give up our top picks in the draft for Cutler. He would be an upgrade at qb but probably wouldn't be worth what we would probably have to give up for him. We have too many pressing needs on the team to give up much needed draft picks.
I do not like Cutler because he is a whinning baby.
At least Alex Smith only has baby hands :)
There seems to be a lot of people on here hating on the fact that others want to trade for Cutler. There are even a few that try and bully by saying others are not true 9er fans when someone else shows a dislike or anything but the utmost confidence for management. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and I do believe that almost everyone commenting on this site are true 9er fans who want nothing more than their team to win.
For the people who are dead set against giving up our draft picks should keep this in mind...(1st round picks the last 10years): Mcgrew, Peterson & Plummer, Carter, Rumph, Harris, Woods, Smith, Davis & Lawson, Willis & Staley, and Balmer.
Out of the above mentioned names there are only 2 that would be considered top notch: Peterson and Willis. Staley can become a really good player but the others haven't done very much at all since being drafted, and please don't tell me that Carter and Davis are above average.
My point behind posting these players is that over the last 10 years our first round picks have done very little for the team as a whole. Jay Cutler has already proven that he is much better than all but 2 names on the list. The draft is far from a sure thing to whereas Cutler is. Give up the picks and get a franchise QB who can take us to our next SB title.
If I were the Broncos, I would ask the bidders "How high?", then send the winning package to KC for Cassell. KC might go with it if the package included an able QB or KC can draft a QB with their first pick, plus KC is probably gonna get a bunch of high draft picks to fill other needs.
Win-win-win?
Matt
Some people are talking about trading 2 first round picks for Cutler. I know he would be an upgrade but I don't think he's our guy.
What type of players have been traded for 2 firsts in the past?
Let's work on ways to acquire a deal with the Pats for some of the ammo they're holding right now?
We need quantity, they have it. Sell pick 10, they can jump in front of the AFC East and screw someone in their Division while helping us grab an extra position of need.
Realize that they (Pats), just turned Matt Cassel into pick 34 and they still have Tom Brady.
Both guys were 2nd Day picks.
It's a pretty good model to study I'd say.
Get a QB later on and develop him.
This is my point for holding those picks.
Cutler doesn't improve your OL, pass rush or secondary.
Tom Brady has proven something, Cutler?
Can't buy that.
Poor Drafts are something I'm personally sick to death of around here. You improve your odds by having more bullets.
I can't be sold on what Cutlers' stats do for our offense.
He of the empty hand throw against the 'Bolts is very similar to the bounce balls young Alex is popular for.
I still look at Eli Manning and ask what's so amazing about him?
He's no Peyton, he has a great supporting cast around him, so he's successful.
Here's my $.02 on the "right price"
Any one of our three QBs and our first round pick. Maybe a conditional second day pick next year to sweeten the pot.
Cutler is a franchise QB, although he does come with a giant red flag. He is going to demand a lucrative new contract. He will most likely be worth it.
Even if we used our first round pick to sign Sanchez, there's no guarantees there. I'd take Cutler any day. Chances are the contracts would be similar. We'd have to cut one of our then 4 QBs on the roster, so it makes sense to trade one as part of the deal.
As far as a conditional pick next year goes, if we give up a 4th or 5th to sweeten the pot, so be it. At least we didn't lose it via tampering charges.
I think our best bet to get Cutler is in a 3 way deal. It's hard to imagine getting Cutler without giving up too much. Hill is good enough to where we don't need to be desperate in getting him.
For the most part, I don't see us getting him and I think it would be for the best. It will depend on what the other teams do and if what they're willing to give up becomes more than we'd want to outbid. Given how many teams are interested, I'd guess it'll be a yes. It'll be a shame because I really want him and think he'll be the best QB we've had since Young, but I rather not risk the sacrifices being greater than what we'd acquire.
Oh and no on Sanchez. No on any QB at #10. I'd rather give up the next 5 1st round picks for Cutler than to get Alex Smith 2.0. If we can't get Cutler, then I say leave it at Hill and Smith and focus on next year to get a top QB. The QB field should be much better then.
Time for a REALITY CHECK! Come on people, THINK! The Broncos will ask for too much, and some stupid team like the Buccaneers or Lions will take the bait. If we could get Cutler for the #10 overall pick then let's do it, but that WON'T be the case. Yeah it would be nice, but seriously, think things through before you start blurting out all your hopes and dreams and ridiculous suggestions and predictions. Some of you guys need to get rid of this know-it-all armchair GM "Madden Football" mentality. The Broncos will not take picks, Alex Smith, Lawson, Balmer, and whatever junk we have for Cutler. Somebody will offer a 1st rd pick this year, another first day pick this year and next year, and MAYBE throw in a decent player. All this "trade all our picks for Cutler, he'll take us to the promised land" is BS. Ask the Saints how that worked out for them. Ricky Williams anyone? How many Super Bowls did he lead them to? Exactly. How many years did that trade set them back? Bottom line is Cutler is a head case, and he's not THAT good, end of story. He might be better than Smith and Hill, but not enough for us to give everything we have for him. All you dreamers need to realize it won't happen, and stop looking for big dramatic "headline" deals to elevate your excitement. That's not how it works. We aren't "a quarterback away" from the playoffs, and the last thing we need is to give up our future (draft picks) for a QB who cries like a little girl and handles situations so pathetically like this. And some of these comments are ridiculous. I mean everyone is entitled to their opinions, but get real people. Some of this stuff I read on here almost embarasses me to be a 49er fan. I'm starting to think that half the commenters on here are teenagers who haven't been exposed to the NFL for very long. HAY guyz, y dont we trade Hill, Smith, Huard, all our picks and Nate Clements for Peyton Manning?!? Da Colts NEED a good cornerbackz dey wood totally do that trade!!!!!! And if that dont werk letz get Favre out of retirement!!!11!!!1!!one!!!
Hayyy guyz, letz draft Josh Freeman, who carez about da o-line! Hes fassst enough we wont need blocking!!!!!!! Letz sign Warner and then Boldin will magically come play herre too!!!!!! Or letz trade all our 1st round pickz for the next 20 years to da Patriots for Brady, Maroney, Moss, Welker, and their whole offensive line! They would TOTALLY accept that trade and it wood be soooo worth itz! Then we can signz Mike Vick and convert him to wide receiver! And we should trade Arnaz Battle, Michael Robinson, Walt Harris, and a 5th round pick in a 7 team trade where we end up with McNabb and DeSean Jackson from Philly and also get Bob Sanders from da Coltz!!!!!!!11!!!!one!!!!!!1
OK, I'm done with the sarcastic exaggerations. I thought they were prety funny. All joking aside, there were a lot of great comments on here that I completely agree with, and some of them echo what I'm trying to say. The rest of you need to get a grip. Look at things from more than one point of view for once. Let me point out why this trade won't happen...** The Broncos are not interested in our QB's, because none of them would be a clear cut starter above Chris Simms. ** Scotty Mac and Coach Sing have repeatedly said they are happy with our current QB situation, and would like to see a full year out of Smith and/or Hill before they blow the bank on a supposed "franchise" quarterback. Cutler had one above average year, big deal. He threw for a lot of yards (because he threw the ball a lot) in a potent Shanahan offense with good talent around him. Not super impressive. He really isn't a huge upgrade for us. ** With Cutler's attitude and crybaby BS, he does not seem like the type of QB the 49ers would go crazy for. ** Good teams are built through the draft and low-risk trades, just ask the Patriots. We won't pull a Saints and trade a ton of picks for one player. Too risky, and not worth the gamble. ** TB, NY, and DET need Cutler a lot more than we do, and will offer more than we are willing. ** Cutler probably wouldn't want to play here. ** Cutler does NOT = playoffs, we have a lot more holes to fill then a slight upgrade at QB. ** Yes, I realize that Sanchez and Stafford are not outstanding prospects. This is the weakest QB draft class I can remember. Mock drafts are a total crapshoot anyway. But this doesn't give us an excuse to trade the #10 plus more picks for Cutler. That being said, we should stick with what we have (for now, at least this season) and see how it plays out, and re-asses the QB situation next year. Stay away from Sanchez and Stafford. ** Smart GM's like draft picks. Would Bill Walsh give up the farm for Cutler? No way in hell. Cutler is worth a look and worth the effort to consider, but don't get your hopes up guys. We aren't going to offer a lot, and that's a smart decision IMO.
4th comment in a row! Sorry about the typos in the previous comment, I'm falling asleep as I type this.
I just wanted to add that I just came across a great story on Yahoo a moment ago by Charles Robinson expressing his thought on this topic. It's a GREAT read.....
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AlMB7siAJ6jXWaj.1R3sAzg5nYcB?slug=cr-cutlertrade033109&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
Let's trade out whole team for what's behind door #3.
Steal Cutler or stay the course.
We have too many others areas to concentrate on.
I hope we won't be Drafting in the Top 10 next year, so get an extra pick if possible this year.
If the right deal doesn't get offered, pick 10 should net a decent option.
I'm leary on Andre, but he's carrying a very good Draft Grade for his body of college work in a top notch program.
As risky as he might be, I'd hope the Front office is wise enough to have all the checks completed before they write that check.
Hey Matt off the subject question for you. Have you seen the draft day hat for the 49ers? The sf design is still the same wouldnt that have been changed if we were going back to the old uniforms?
Not sure I have anything to add to the Cutler discussion. IMHO the 9ers max offer should be a 1st and 3rd and thats it. Nothing more. Perhaps the 9ers cap position will entice Cutler's agent to steer him our way. I'm not sure how our cap room compares to the other teams in consideration, though.
On a related topic, I'm wondering how Alex Smith and Saun Hill are taking this flirtation with yet another QB. They must feel like the fat girl at prom with her younger brother.
Nor Cal,
It's fans like you that irritate me the most when you attempt to make a valid point but then aren't accurate with the point your trying to make. If you're going to make a case about the 49ers 1st round picks then DON'T include the Donahue Ragime because they're no longer here! Now take a look at the #1 picks (Alex - for obvious reasons 5 OC's in 5 years, need I say more? the jury is still out on him) (VD - at this point is servicable at the very least, excellent blocker but still has potential to be alot better in the passing game, certainly not a bust) (Lawson - the guy was on his way in 2007 but then got injured, came back last year only to have NoWin screw everything up for him because he didn't know how to use him, idiot!, Sing will know how to use him this year & should have his best year) (Willis - need I say more?) (Staley - he's on his way to being a perrenial Pro Bowler) (Balmer - he finally started to play at the end of the season so hopefully he can build on that & get more playing time this year) So there you have it. At this point in time it's a mix bag that needs more time & seasoning to see if all these players can be productive enough to be worthy of being a #1 pick.
Jay Cutler is a punk. I wouldn't add him to my team as a free agent. He threw for a lo of yards, great. He also took his toys and went home because he got his feelings hurt. He is used to having all day to throw behind a great line. He is used to throwing to a real #1 receiver in Marshall, and a legitimate rising star in Royal. How many times do we ask him to do nothing but hand off the ball to seal the deal in the fourth quarter before he throws another fit? If he was a man, if he was a leader, or if he had any regard for the team, he'd be with his team now. Football is a business. Little boy Jay wants to make it personal. That's the same root of the problem that makes TO a cancer.
A little food for thought: Shaun Hill threw for over 2,000 yards last year in about 8.5 games, and we had a 1,000 yard rusher. That comes out to around 4,000 yards. I know that Shaun Hill doesn't have a Cutler arm, but he doesn't have a Cutler attitude either, and we also have Alex Smith on board. I wouldn't bring in Cutler's selfishness and immaturity to a mostly young (some serious old-timers bring up our average age), rising team that is focused on chemistry and team unity. I certainly wouldn't do it for about 500 yards.
I'm not a big fan of trading picks for players, but in this situation i think the niners got to nail a deal. I think the organization needs it, and most important the fans need it.out of some of the teams mentioned above i think the niners are in a good position to get cutler.they have the #10 pick and the salary cap to sign him long term.And they play in the NFC. i don't think broncos trade within conference.I don't think lions, bears, and vikes pull the trigger. The bucs i could see pushing hard.but i feel the niners have more to offer than them if the niners are serious.
I hear that because the 49ers went after Kurt Warner, they should go after Jay Culter. Well people forget one thing.....the 49ers didn't have to trade away anything to sign Kurt Warner, he was a free agent. In Culter's case, I'm sure the Broncos want either an established QB or a 1st round pick (packaged with other stuff) to give up Culter. I hope the 49ers don't do anything foolish like trade away their picks.
Matt, while Cutler is sorely tempting and I'd expect us to bid, there are some good reasons for us not to get too caught up in bidding.
Cutler has spent his whole career in the WCO and with zone blocking. Our terminology and offensive scheme and blocking scheme are different. No doubt Cutler can adapt, but if we acquired him, one should expect some significant growing pains.
This whiny little girl just pouted his way off this team. This is the guy you want running your offense and the future of your franchise? Idiots.
no way to cutler.....
the niners organization is not stable enough of an influence to handle cutler.....
just say no to a head case that has bio-chemical issues
too much downside potential due to the man himself as well as the niner oranization and just not that much upside
niners as an organization are at a crossroads and throwing in a puzzle piece that they don't fully understand is not worth the risk.....
niners need to create their new atmosphere and cutler would just provide smoke..
stay away from cutler and focus ur organizational energies on the draft and the players u have....
do u really want somebody that has been around nolan albeit absentism
While I don't have doubts the Niners have picked up the phone and are on a list of possible landing spots....
I can't help but feel we'd be running at the end of the pack for compensation.
Only way I see Denver biting on a deal with us is the following:
1. The Broncos think that Stafford or Sanchez are worthy draft picks because they are almost assured one or the other with the 10th pick. Then it's a matter of additional picks or a body.
2. The Broncos think Alex Smith is worth developing (unlikely).
As Maiocco mentioned, if the Niners were in on the deal and the Broncos were demanding a starting caliber QB, another team would have to be involved, like Cleveland.
I'll also say this -- Chris Simms will be the starter come Week 1. Word out of Broncos camp (even before the Cutler debacle) is that they were very impressed with him and could start him with confidence if they ever had to.
and let's say u make a serious run for cutler.....
why the heck would u sweetin any pot? this is a fire sale...
the only thing i would do is trade VD straight up for cutler and even then i think it is a loss on the niner's ledger....(and i have always been against the VD drafting......never pick a TE number 6 when the ball is in his hands only 5 times a game on average)
You would have to sweeten the pot because there are several teams that are interested in Cutler. This has nothing to do with how much the Broncos want to keep Cutler. This no longer has anything to do with value, this is about which team will give up the most to get him. I hope that team is not us.
Matt,
You will want to see this report. No one else is reporting this, but you should check it out.
http://www.denverexaminer.problitz.com/sports/broncos/20090401-Cutler-Trade.html
It reports a Cutler to the 49ers trade ready to go.
Mike from Michigan,it's an april fools prank!
Matt,
I'm surprised no one has brought up this trade scenario but it makes sense. Denver needs a running back, Frank Gore has maybe 2 or3 premium seasons left in him, the 49ers should trade Frank Gore straight up to Denver for Jay Cutler and then draft Moreno or Wells with the #10 pick overall. We love Frank Gore but running backs have a "short shelf-life" and it's much easier to find an All-Pro Running Back then an All-Pro Quarterback.
Ugh..
Reads headline...
Check the date...
sighs...
Reads article...
rolls eyes...
Reads the rest of the article, where Kurt Warner stops throwing with gloves because God told him to, and Darren Sproles injures himself at a kid's park...
laughs out loud...
Reads attached article in which McDonalds converts to a vegetarian menu...
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April Fools, Dude, and they fooled you.
1st,3rd and a 2nd in next years draft plus 2 players?? That seems like an awful lot to give up for Cutler. I don't know about this deal.
I believe that a lot of the fans on here who are against trading for Cutler are hopeful romantics sitting by a fire at night and dreaming about how good the 9ers will be after the next 2 drafts. As a fellow 9er fan I appreciate the passion and am guilty of the same exact thing from time to time. Almost any other time I would be against giving up draft picks for the type of QB's that are usually available for trades in the NFL, but not this time!! When is the last time there has been this type of young QB available?
As I stated in previous post my point is that the team gets much better the second Cutler becomes a 49er while giving up a few high draft picks that may or may not work out. What are NFL defenses going to do with Hill or Smith under center while we are going to be a running team? They are going to crowd the line of scrimmage and stop the run because Hill and Smith cannot complete the deep passes with any type of accuracy.
Trading for Cutler would probably cost the team 2 #1's and maybe a player. If we took Sanchez or Stafford #10 this year they would get a contract similar to what Cutler would sign as an extension. So we would really only be giving up our next years #1 as far as picks are concerned. Do people actually feel that Cutler isn't worth a #1 pick that will most likely be at the back end of the first round (due to the 9ers making the playoffs next year) and an average player? Nobody really seemed to have a problem with the team giving up a future #1 when drafting Staley, but people would be so mad if we did it for a proven franchise QB that makes us instantly better. Even if we had to throw in another 2nd or 3rd rounder it is worth it.
Sorry, I work the night shift. Forgot what day today is.
i like cutler - but sorry i think A.Smith will be much better as niner.....with all those talents in denver cutler still had a losing record.......i will stick with the guy that have been thru the pain with me......i will keep my guy.....all this is dumb anyways....if cutler goes any where it is Detroit or Tampa......
Comment: Matt, You will want to see this report. No one else is reporting this, but you should check it out. http://www.denverexaminer.problitz.com/sports/broncos/20090401-Cutler-Trade.html
My response: This is great news! One newspaper in Denver shut down three weeks ago but another just opened -- without any fanfare -- this morning on April Fools Day. (That's the part I really wish were true.) --Matt M.
Hey Matt, if you're the GM over in Kansas City, would you be interested in trading for Cutler? After all, you have the guy they want and started the whole thing. Kansas City could ask for Cutler, and a high draft pick or a couple of first day picks, or another player for Cassel -- what do you think?
I feel the joke was in bad taste personally. 49ers webzone gave false hope to a lot of 49er fans that thought finally we had a QB and not crap on a stick we got right now.
"I'm wondering how Alex Smith and Shaun Hill are taking this flirtation with yet another QB ?" ...well they are taking their ball home and they are not returning any text messages...not!
keep the draft picks and grab what we need. Who knows how good Alex Smith might be now if he was drafted by Denver 4 years ago. You cover a bury a rose in crap it's gonna end up smelling like crap.
Matt - WHAT is YOUR TWITTER HANDLE!!!
all,
remember Coach Sing & mcGM said with the #10 they were going to select the BPA. Ahh, that would be Cutler. Surely, we would have to give up the #10 pick in this years draft, but we don't necessary have to give up our 1st rounder next year. Hey, Denver now is facing the reality that Cutler is not onboard, so they no longer hold all the cards - they must make a trade. We give up our #10 this year and maybe a Lawson or a Jason Hill, or #10 and a 3rd or 4th rounder next year -- not all of the above.
No worries, brother. They had me going for a second, too. I just remembered last year when Real (stupid) Football 365 reported that Gore was injured and out for the year... on April 1st.
Hey Matt, if you're the GM over in Kansas City, would you be interested in trading for Cutler? After all, you have the guy they want and started the whole thing. Kansas City could ask for Cutler, and a high draft pick or a couple of first day picks, or another player for Cassel -- what do you think?
No on Cutler, this move would make little sense given the fact that Hill already has the team chemistry and Smith just restructured. The 49ers have needs that go beyond a single player. Would not trade a 1st round pick, and absolutely would not trade Lawson, Harlson or Willis. Given the Niners situation and needs (OL and DL) Cutler or any QB in the draft is NOT worth your 1st round pick.
Please keep in mind blog land, Warner was only going to cost the Niners money, NOT draft picks and/or players. Stop comparing this or using that Warner deal as justification for going after Cutler.
My gut feeling --- the niners will offer the #10 pick and Alex Smith. Josh McDaniels will turn Smith into an NFL QB.
Yeah,
Did'nt we sign Andre Johnson last April?
-Aloha
you no at first i wanted cutler but i changed my mind..he's a whiner, and way 2 cocky fornot accomplishing much...and i was watching NFL network they were showing a clip of him after he threw a INT he was like i aint chasing him down...i think we should keep our pics and devolop a QB..
Irritated? The fact that I bring up the SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS last 10 1st round picks irritates you because some of them are not here? I got news for you f49er, Vernon Davis is a 1st round bust. The guy was picked #6 overall and is one of the highest paid TE's in the NFL but since he blocks well than he should be considered serviceable? Maybe I will take away that bust label once he gets a QB that can maximize his potential (oh wait, there could be one in Cutler but....). Alex Smith has shown nothing more than he is at best a backup in the NFL and lets remember that a few of his OC's have been McCarthy, Turner, and Martz (yes Martz, he had every opportunity to win starting job but didn't). Nolan didn't screw Lawson, he did it to himself because he isn't any good at rushing the QB (the main reason we traded back in the 1st round to get him).
The Dontknowahue regime wasn't all that long ago so it should still be remembered. People tend to forget that Donahue was hand picked by Bill Walsh and no one saw his poison coming. The mistakes made during the Donahue era are still hurting us now but there were a few picks that panned out which is a lot like how the last regime has fared.
Your not going to win SB titles with excuses and continuously giving players more and more time to see if they are going to work out. I agree that there is currently a mixed bag of players and they would greatly benefit from a top notch QB under center.
what drugs are you on - "he had every opportunity to win starting job but didn't" + "Nolan didn't screw Lawson, he did it to himself because he isn't any good at rushing the QB" = what part of injured don't you get?
I would say Denver sees a bigger upside in Chris Simms then Alex Smith so I doubt they have any interest in Alex Smith. But Frank Gore???? Probably some.
Yes - let's break the bank for a sensitive, head case QB. Great idea. Those sensitive, head cases with tons of talent always seem to work out so well! (see Owens, Terrell)
He must be confident that it will be Cutler throwing to him
I wonder what Nolan will have to say about Alex coming to Denver....NOT!
You gotta get real for a second. Is there any team whose selected a world beater on their last 10 first round picks? What does the Donahue era have to do with now? And you end by saying "giving players more and more time to see if they're going to work out." Ummm, whats wrong with player development? There isn't a player on the team whose been there for more than a decade. If your OC position has been a revolving door for the past 7 or 8 (I lost count) years, how do you expect a young team to succeed? The most successful teams in the league have a common thread; continuity.
Some people on this board make me say wow! Folks, lets think rationally. I don't care who you get at quarterback, you will need offensive lineman to protect him! Secondly, denver will demand alot to get him. I don't think the organization will give up that much for 1 player when we need so much ourselves.
Did you happen to see the second half of the season? Two key changes were made after JTO was yanked (who was responsible for several of the team sacks)
1. Shaun Hill got rid of the ball quicker.
2. Chilo Rachal and David Baas provided far better protection.
We still need a long term RT, but expect our O-line to be lightyears better this year.
Well, Nowin may have some input, but it is McDaniel's team, he is better suited to work with and communicate better than nowin ever could.
Question: Matt - WHAT is YOUR TWITTER HANDLE!!!
My response: It's MattMaiocco. Thank you. --Matt M.
Stampede, I generally agree w/your comments but not this time. But I will say, unlike other $#%&& on this board that begin insulting people and bullying (as Nor Cal pointed out) you dodn't so I'm happy to engage a mature Niner fan in real football conversation, instead of trading e-jabs with some that act real tough behind their keyboards.
Nothing is wrong w/player development but the time between growing a player and beating a dead horse has decreased exponentially throughout the years, no one can argue that.
Players who are destined to succeeed show leadership, skill, and desire almost immediately. What tends to fog this perception are the COUNTLESS EXCUSES made for the failings. "He didn't have a line, he didn't have a running game, his receivers weren't great, his defense was weak." I'm not even talking about ASmith, I'm talking about David Carr, who got his arse beat down, unjustafiably so, but in the end, he busted out.
Maybe he would've done better on another team or another system. Well, his supporters are still waiting for that day, just like the ASmith supporters will. I never saw a single play made by ASmith that made me jump out of my seat and say "Holy crap! Did you see that? Give this guy a line and he'll be a star."
VDavis will bust out because of his immaturity both emotionally and physically. He'll drop balls, beat his chest after a first down and try to mix it up with opposing players (Joey Porter stands out). All this does NOBODY ANY good.
It didn't get him on the field when it could've helped like the last drive against Miami. If he STFU and play hard. That's the only thing you have control over. You can't coach desire, although some here will argue that's exactly what Jimmy Raye's gonna do. With another less hard-nosed coach like SIng, VDavis is TO w/oth the talent. The #8 pick in the draft needs to be a HELL of a lot more than servicable after 3 years.
My moniker doesn't suggest that I'm waiting for a higher power to take SF back to the promised land. I think He's a little busy w/more important things so we have to rely on the guys behind the scenes here and, like it or not, we've been rebuilding for almost a decade and lots of people feel completely content writing "If such and such player can have a big year, and this other player does well, and we draft this player, then we might just have a "serviceable" defense. Really????? That sounds like more of the same. That sounds like we're good for one bad drat pick per season.
What's wrong with taking an agressive approach? I'll tell you. Agression misfires, it can set you back a few years, it can dampen fans spirit and turn a franchise that was a titan in the league into an afterthought. Interesting how we've been exactly that w/out making such a bold statement (and I dodn't mean trading into the 1st round a couple of times) I'm talking about taking such a risk that the reward is just as high- knowing you've got a great pitch to hit w/ a 3-2 count and you have it set on your mind that you're going to swing. If you miss it sucks and it's back to the drawing board, but at least you did something about it. I think that's always better than sitting, watching and hoping, at least when it comes to football.
ESPN reports that any trade proposal will have to be okay w/Cutler and the Lions and Jets have NO running game to keep teams from stacking the box. And being in such a weak division like we are gives Cutler the best chance at success. I just think we gotta swing that bat.
And if you're gonna write back just to see your clever words, do me a favor: GFY and go back to the SJ Merc message boar. It used to be halfway decent until trolls, bullies and idealists caused it to decay. Good deal, Stampede.
Call me crazy but my vote is still for Shaun. Let him have one year under his belt and let's see what happens. 7 - 3 as a starter under those circumstances is better then Cutlers stats.
In his only 3rd start of his career on MNF he outplayed Mr. All World Warner and would have won if Martz hadn't blown it.
Don't believe me or can't remember then here you go
http://niners.fandome.com/video/106118/Week-10-Shaun-Hill-Highlights/
From PFT:
Broncos Refute Cutler’s Claim That He Wasn’t Called
Posted by Mike Florio on April 1, 2009, 4:52 p.m.
As we mentioned earlier in the day, Broncos (for now) quarterback Jay Cutler is claiming that he didn’t fail to respond to calls and/or texts from coach Josh McDaniels and owner Pat Bowlen because no such calls and/or texts were received.
According to Thomas George of NFL.com, sources close to Bowlen have responded in unequivocal fashion: “We have the phone records.”
But why would the Broncos even engage Cutler on this point? If they’re right, they’ll only potentially scare away teams who might decide they’re interested in making a long-term commitment to a quarterback who might have trouble with the truth.
Of course, it’s not the first misstep the Broncos have made in this case. As one league source put it in eloquent fashion earlier today, “The Broncos should shut up. They are f–king this thing up royally by talking publicly about the situation.”
I totally understand what some of you are saying regarding the hope you have for the future of the team. I have felt the exact same way for a long time now. I just want my 9ers to start winning again. I agree that draft picks are very important and should not be thrown away as well as giving a player some time to develop.
We have been in a rebuilding mode for a long time now and have even done a descent job at trading back in the 1st round to stock pile some talent, but when are all the picks going to get the team a winning season? Manny Lawson could develop into a descent player but up until now his pass rushing skills haven't been what everyone hoped for (even considering his injury).
Continuity is important but doesn't mean much unless you have a winning team. Most of the good teams in the league have a solid core and than have the time to develop players to plug into the lineup if an injury or FA departure should occur. One thing that is certain is that the 9ers haven't been successful over the past 10 years and that is why I bring up the last 10 1st round picks. With the exception of the 02' season it has been a lot of the same results and its time to go get the one major missing piece that has been missing... a QB.
I think a lot of people are making this way more complicated than it has to be, myself included. Bottom line is that the QB is the most important position on the team and without a really good one it is going to be extremely difficult to win Super Bowl trophy's. A top notch QB instantly makes the rest of the team better. If a young top QB is available such as Cutler you trade for him. There are a lot of other picks you have in each draft to try and grab a player to develop. With the 9ers still being in a rebuilding mode after all these years they need to get a proven QB in place and than start filling the holes. And no, Shaun Hill and Alex Smith are not better than Cutler.
Faith, that's a whole lot of blather and not much content, but I'm glad to hear you're not going to hurl insults or tell me to GFY or any tough guy stuff like that if I'm not particularly impressed by your speech. Incidentally, a conversation is different than a monologue.
Sure...I can't find ya in the Twitter Dir. April fool on me I guess.
Comment: can't find ya in the Twitter Dir.
My response: I don't know why I'm not there.
http://twitter.com/MattMaiocco
--Matt M.
Twitter is kooky sometimes...it never appears to stay the same. you gotta get tweets from Shaq and Lance Armstrong.
Hilarious!!
thanks Matt
Point taken, Skeebers. I apologize.
We're in a much better position to trade for Cutler than people realize, without having to break the bank- Denver's doing a good job of lowering the ante.
We've got good pieces in place and he would greatly enhance all of them.
All hope and no action is just a lot of, ummm, blather, no?
Better?
Now go home and get your effin shine box and STFU?
Bwahahahahahahahahahaha C'mon Skeeb, lighten' up will ya?
I will say that just because Sing imroved the team (which I completely agree with) doesn't mean he won't coach not to lose instead of to win (AZ game) That's ineveitable, it will happen again next season and thereafter. It's built into his system but a top tier QB can turn a couple of those L's into W's.
I hate to be the negative one here, but we have some things workin for us, and against us. The redskins and Jets are going to drive his price up, because Snyder is an overpaying idiot. What's working for us is we may have the best trade bait for the Broncos to maybe land Sanchez, and some d-players that Nolan may want to build his D with.
I would give Shawn Hill and our 2nd round pick as well as next years 1st. You know theres a Mike Ditka out there who's willing to trade his whole draft for Cutler as well. Another thing workin against us is our instability in the FO. We don't know what we are, and that would maybe make Cutler say he doesn't want to come here.
With all the above stated, i would even give our 1st and 2nd round picks for him and next years 2nd. He's that good. It's about time the 9ers get a franchise qb. We will be the favorites in the nfc west with this trade. Let's do it!
faith71 - Talent is definately an important part in a players development; meaning they gotta have some. But what about the development of a team? It takes those talented players, as well as a sound, consistent coaching staff. The Niners have come up short in both, esp. the latter, for the past several years. However, as evidenced by the up-swing at the end of last season, we see that the Niners DO have some talent, as well as team chemistry. A bunch of talented players on one team doesn't gurantee a championship (look at the yankees). A QB won't be the "answer." JTO was supposed to be "thee guy" in Martz's system last year, and where are those two clowns? Unemployed and in the land of mediocrity. After saying all that, Cutler is not the answer, the Niners have many more pressing needs. Have a little more 'faith' comrade.
NorCal707 - I'm diggin the handle, b/c yer from where I'm from. But I gotta ask you bruh, how can you rebuild if the bricks keep falling off the house? The Niners have been through 3 coaching regimes over the last several years. You can't build for success that way, I don't care who you have throwing the ball and who you have catching it. For this new coaching regime, lets see the product on the field before we declare it a disaster.
Sorry for the long windedness, this ain't really my style.
For all of the criticism most of you laid on Nolan, you guys are worse! Multiple 1st and 2nd round pix and Smith for Cutler? WTF?! You do realize that football is a team sport right? You are so eager to sell the farm for one guy… one who hasn’t even proven himself in the NFL. Granted his got a nice arm, but I don’t remember Cutler taking the Broncos deep in the post season… has he even taken them to the playoffs? If the Broncos have made it, $100 says it was because of the running game not the QB. You all sound like Ditka… Ricky really turned the Saints around didn’t he? C’mon! Going all out for Cutler would make sense if he was the one piece the team needed in order to be SB contenders. But we need depth at multiple positions, and arguably a starter or two (QB, OT, and/or FS). If anything, we should try to acquire as many picks as we can in the first three rounds and try to shore up our lines and grab a legitamate #2 RB (who could share the load with Gore). With the lower picks we should get some depth at the other positions (QB, RB, WR, DE, S, and ST). Once we have an established team identity, a solid foundation of talent and a mix of veterans, then we can go after a stud QB (that will be pretty costly by the way). Rookie HC + sub-par OL + expensive prema donna QB = Disaster! (see McNolan). Seriously, as much as most of you have to say regarding the errors and failures of the previous coaches/GM’s, I’d figure you’d be smart enough not to make the same mistakes. Keep the big picture in mind guys… you’re starting to sound like some of the SF Giants fans who were clamoring for Manny Ramirez. Oy vey!
For all of the criticism most of you laid on Nolan, you guys are worse! Multiple 1st and 2nd round pix and Smith for Cutler? WTF?! You do realize that football is a team sport right? You are so eager to sell the farm for one guy… one who hasn’t even proven himself in the NFL. Granted his got a nice arm, but I don’t remember Cutler taking the Broncos deep in the post season… has he even taken them to the playoffs? If the Broncos have made it, $100 says it was because of the running game not the QB. You all sound like Ditka… Ricky really turned the Saints around didn’t he? C’mon! Going all out for Cutler would make sense if he was the one piece the team needed in order to be SB contenders. But we need depth at multiple positions, and arguably a starter or two (QB, OT, and/or FS). If anything, we should try to acquire as many picks as we can in the first three rounds and try to shore up our lines and grab a legitamate #2 RB (who could share the load with Gore). With the lower picks we should get some depth at the other positions (QB, RB, WR, DE, S, and ST). Once we have an established team identity, a solid foundation of talent and a mix of veterans, then we can go after a stud QB (that will be pretty costly by the way). Rookie HC + sub-par OL + expensive prema donna QB = Disaster! (see McNolan). Seriously, as much as most of you have to say regarding the errors and failures of the previous coaches/GM’s, I’d figure you’d be smart enough not to make the same mistakes. Keep the big picture in mind guys… you’re starting to sound like some of the SF Giants fans who were clamoring for Manny Ramirez. Oy vey!
For all of the criticism most of you laid on Nolan, you guys are worse! Multiple 1st and 2nd round pix and Smith for Cutler? WTF?! You do realize that football is a team sport right? You are so eager to sell the farm for one guy… one who hasn’t even proven himself in the NFL. Granted his got a nice arm, but I don’t remember Cutler taking the Broncos deep in the post season… has he even taken them to the playoffs? If the Broncos have made it, $100 says it was because of the running game not the QB. You all sound like Ditka… Ricky really turned the Saints around didn’t he? C’mon! Going all out for Cutler would make sense if he was the one piece the team needed in order to be SB contenders. But we need depth at multiple positions, and arguably a starter or two (QB, OT, and/or FS). If anything, we should try to acquire as many picks as we can in the first three rounds and try to shore up our lines and grab a legitamate #2 RB (who could share the load with Gore). With the lower picks we should get some depth at the other positions (QB, RB, WR, DE, S, and ST). Once we have an established team identity, a solid foundation of talent and a mix of veterans, then we can go after a stud QB (that will be pretty costly by the way). Rookie HC + sub-par OL + expensive prema donna QB = Disaster! (see McNolan). Seriously, as much as most of you have to say regarding the errors and failures of the previous coaches/GM’s, I’d figure you’d be smart enough not to make the same mistakes. Keep the big picture in mind guys… you’re starting to sound like some of the SF Giants fans who were clamoring for Manny Ramirez. Oy vey!
I hear you, Stampede. I'm sure the first thing Lil York did was to gather Sing and McC and ask "We could do this but should we do this?"
I believe York and Co. will have the best interests of the team, (risk vs. reward/consequence) in mind. Whatever they decide I shall have "faith" in that decision. It just gets tiring after a while. Then again, tell that to Cubs fans...
Matt, the Niners do not have the goods to acquire Cutler, and if he is going to cost multiple draft picks this year and next, it is not worth it as the team just has too many holes to fill. Yes, he could step right in and help the team this year, but they still lack surrounding help, and someone needs to ask him if he likes "smash mouth" football. He seems to be a Mike Martz type of QB, and he needs to grow up.
And Lions fans.
After much thought my take on Cutler and the 49ers is best summed up by former Giants GM Al Rosen's line about former Giants pitching phenom - and now Padres broadcaster - Mark Grant and the reason he wasn't a star - million dollar arm and 10 cent head. Cutler is far too full of himself for his mediocre resume. Montana was great not because of his arm but because of his leadership and performance abilities under pressure. He made others better. Ditto with Young. Young was an athletic leader who made himself into an accurate passer. If you saw him in college, with the Express or in Tampa you never thought he was a professional quarterback, running back yes, qb no. Cutler is a a qb with a great arm but way too into himself and his feelings to be a leader of men and his team. Even before this episode he had the reputation for being very aloof. Tell me who Cutler has made better or lifted from their station in his career. I don't remember Vanderbilt winning a single big game. Cutler looked great against the Raiders but Denver imploded with somethng like a four game lead on the Chargers with four games to go. He couldn't lift the Broncos to a single win in any of their games down the stretch and the Chargers embarassed him in the finale. Pardon me but I see far more Jeff George here than Montana, Young, Brady, Peyton or even Eli Manning. On this blog we've talked alot about being consistent in building a team image. Cutler's image is that of a crybaby - remember he cried about the way Phillip Rivers was berating him from the sideline - not the spit nails image that Singletary is building. Sorry, not with my team or my teams draft picks. I vote no on Cutler.
Nice "digi High5"
BlindV,
Getting a QB would make the 49ers a Super Bowl Contender out of the NFC INSTANTLY! Look what Drew Brees did for New Orleans and Kurt Warner for Arizona. The argument can be made that the 49ers have as much talent up and down the roster as those two teams if not more. The 49ers are missing one MAJOR piece and it is CONSISTENT high end QB play. Shaun Hill is a nice #2 but he isn't taking you to the Super Bowl anytime soon because of his limitations.
What a waste of space.
Judging by the headline, you'd expect an article based on whom might be considered trade fodder to acquire Cutler.
What do we get? Nothing of the sort. Just old, reported previously ad nauseam news and no hint of who might be on the block.
Sacbee, here I come...
According to PFT ESPN reports that the Broncos want 2 #1's for Cutler and that a QB isn't a necessity.
Count us out of that derby. I believe that Cutler would all but launch us into playoff-dom but that's too rich for my blood.
I agree faith71. 2 first round picks is ridiculous but this is Negotiation 101. You ask higher than you are willing to take and come dow from there. Say the 10th pick and the 3rd round pick this year plus next years 2nd rounder. That might even be too much but they ain't getting 2 first rounders unless some team is really desparate (and stupid).