If the 2 QB's are gone and the 4 OT's, that means we'll have a shot at either Curry (no way) or Orakpo or Crabtree (possibly). In that case, I'd be thrilled, but I don't expect that to happen at all. Surprises, sure, but not of that kind.

Thanks Matt.. I do not understand this.I know McCloughan's is obsessed with Smith, but when you have an option to acquire Cutler for possibly this years first and next years
first, they should make it happen. If anything to give the fans what they want, a winner after so many years. This would increase revenue
big time for the niners by 1 signing. Its seems a small price to pay for a proven player, when #1 picks fail so often. I figured the niners were being quiet b/c they didnt want to insult Smith or Hill..

Don't the Jets and Bucs have lower draft picks than the 49ers and neither has a qb to trade back to Denver? How can they have a package that Denver would like but the 49ers don't?

Matt, is there a chance that SF can use this information come draft time to persuade New York or Tampa Bay to trade up past one another or the Skins (up to the #10 spot) - thus enabling SF to pick up an extra 3rd or even 2nd round pick in the process. (Assuming of course that either Stafford or Sanchez falls that far).

It would be dumb for the 49ers to trade for Cutler. It would take at least our first and second this year and a first next year. The 49ers need to build through the draft.

Plus, the 49ers are going to be a run first team. They don't need a gunslinger like Cutler. He is a good player, but our offense doesn't fit his style. The 49ers just need a quarterback who won't turn the ball over often.

As great as a proven "franchise Qb" would be, they would have to give up too much. Especially for a run heavy team.

I agree completely. He's not worth a ton of picks. And before the peanut gallery can chime in, I'm aware of what a HUGE UPGRADE!!!1!!!1! he would be over Hill/Smith.

Gary Radnich and Willie Brown ??? --- PUHleeez !! Spare us.

Matt, I agree with the above bloggers about Cutler costing too much in the form of future draft picks. I would rather they use their picks to upgrade the holes in other spots and draft a QB for the future. Maybe they can find a future QB who doesn't quit on his teammates because of a personal disagreement. Gee, even Alex Smith did better!

Cutler is a solid QB. He's been to the Pro-Bowl, he's got a great arm, and he's thrown for 4,ooo yards. Also, he's only 25. The 49ers have beed looking for a good yong QB since Garcia was sent packing. They should take a shot at Cutler. They are way under the cap and having a QB like Cutler will only open things up for the running game. We all forget that during the great years (80-98), the 49ers had great running attacks and great QB's. The 49ers were a dominant runnign team most of those years and nobody called them bland or plodding. I don't ever remember Yong or Montana complain about how much the 49ers were running even though they were always at or near the top in the league in rushing attemps.

I agree that the 49ers don't have a qb that the broncos covet in a trade, but i believe the bucs, and jets are in the same position.The browns might be in the best position, however, we don't know if mcdaniels likes either of their qb's and if they would trade with-in conference. If Denver would get the 49ers 10th pick,they might not get Sanchez there, but with the 10th and 12th, it certainly gives them ammo to move up. I believe the Jets and Bucs have draft picks in the later teens.

is cutler really that good? i personally think he's totally overrated. he's 17-20 in games started, he's got about a 1.45 td/int ratio (which isn't bad, but it's not great either. for comparison jeff garcia has a 1.94 ratio) he's got a bunch of yards, but yards/attempt is 7.4 compared to hill's 6.9. not too far off. before everyone goes nuts, i'm not saying hill is better than cutler nor am i saying hill is the "franchise qb" of the future. i just want everyone to get off the cutler koolaid. he's not worth a first AND second rounder and next year's first. next year's qb class is going to be much deeper than this years. if the hill/smith experiment fails, then let's seriously think about qb's next season. let's go ahead and use all our picks this year to bulk up OL and DL. we're not going to the superbowl, or even playoffs whether we get cutler or not.

Matt, I'm not sure I agree with your reasoning about the niners not having what the broncos want. We have a higher pick than the Jets or Bucs or Redskins. The Redskins can dangle Campbell, but if the rumor mill is to be believed, Denver wasnt interested in him and a 3 way deal would have been needed.

So the frontrunners are no better at getting Denver a replacement QB than we are. Detroit could offer #1 overall, but Denver may not even want that.

In the meantime, we do have a QB who could start for Denver short term until a draft pick came on.

i can believe we don't want to pay the asking price, but I dont believe we dont have what it takes to get it done. If we don't no one does (except maybe Cleveland or Washington)

Cutler would cost a lot of draft picks but who knows how many and which ones? But have the 9ers shown they can use those picks so well that losing them in a Cutler trade would be debilitating? A FEW high picks, which the 9ers track record suggests would probably result in mediocre players, might be worth a Cutler.

Cutler is exactly that good. Great QB. He'd make half the teams in the league better right now and he's got loads of potential.

That said, the Niners should stay away. This is a guy who's so emotionally fragile he's not returning the team owner's calls. There's no way he could handle working for Singletary, who doesn't exactly seem like the sort of guy to coddle a player's feelings.

It would take less than a week for Cutler to proclaim that he wishes he had never been born, stomp up to his room, slam the door and cut himself while listening to Linkin Park.

Danny!!! You nailed it... Cutler is already backtracking saying he never wanted to be traded. He's a PrimaDonna to the tenth degree and we def don't need someone like that.

Cutler has already been traded to the Bears for Orton and 2 1st rounders...Thank God..Now he can whine in Chicago...

Word already has it that Cutler is going to Chicago.
Assuming Stafford or Sanchez are sitting there at #10 - can we use the knowledge about the Jets & Bucs lack of faith in their own QBs to leverage trading down and picking up an extra pick or two?

Jets, Bucs, and now Denver, too. Nice thing about it is even if they don't trade with us, hopefully they'll trade up to spots 1-9 to get a QB and force someone like Crabtree or Orakpo down a little bit.

That is a steep price to pay for Cutler!! Only time will tell how that works out. I keep hearing more and more to support the 9ers might have hood winked us all and be looking at a QB at #10.

This is where Sing's honesty hurts us. He needs to say what great QB's Sanchez and Stafford are and how they are difference makers, then those teams will jump in front of us and force a better player down to us. Start the smokescreens (and not the Raji type)

Now that we have our #10 pick - how scared should we be of BJ Raji given this report below. In my opinion, if you fail a drug test when you know you are getting tested you are a complete idiot. Everyone knows what a failed test at the combine means and yet every year one or two players still fail the drug tests:

We have confirmed reports that Boston College defensive tackle B.J. Raji failed a drug test in Indianapolis at the NFL Combine

Cutler is no Prima Donna, though his stock did drop with his backtracking. I have never seen any pro bowler treated with such disrespect like I have with Cutler. For as bad as Cutler may be, McDaniels is 100 times worse. Thanks to Cutler's backtracking, though, I hope both sides fail miserably. You know, like it did with Baron Davis and the Warriors.

Cutler was a pro bowler because Mr. Favre dropped out of the game and Culter was the first alternate. Not to mention Mr. Brady spent the year on Injured Reserve and Mr. Palmer delt with elboy issues. That's a huge caveat boys. When all are healthy in the AFC he is behind Manning, Brady, Rothlisberger, Rivers, and Palmer in the AFC. 6th best in the AFC is hardly worth the price the Bears just paid.

This one is simple, if he failed the drug test, you don't pick him, not with the 10th pick. Period, end of story, not worth the risk. Lets move on to the next player.

Jay Glazer of Fox Sports is reporting that Cutler has been dealt to the Chi Bears for Kyle Orton, two first round picks, and a third round pick. Matt, heard anything yet?

WOW!

Two #1 picks, a 3rd round pick & a QB (Orton)? Man that is Wayyy too steep! But I'm glad somebody traded for Cutler because the CRAZY TALK needed to be silenced. Boy, now everything is up for grabs especially if the Broncos use 2 #1's to get in the top 3 in order to get Stafford or Sanchez you would have to think.

Clueless, gutless, moronic, inept. The Niners are a joke. Kudos to the Bears for making a bold move. All of you idiots drinking the McSing kool-aid enjoy another boring year. Do you really think we can win a Super Bowl with the QB's on our roster? Sure, me too. Let's just spend four more years of building through the draft, those draft picks are SOOOOOOO valuable!!!

Matt,

You're on TV right now! NFL Network - Path to the NFL Draft

Chi Town has to be stoked. They got rid of worm burner Orton and 2 draft picks they would have blown anyway.
The Bears are gonna be tough now with there D and somebody who isn't trying to kill gophers on every pass....
What does Denver do with the "Worm Burner". Denver has got to be sick to their stomachs..
They goodness this circus has left town. Some of you guys were beating on each other pretty hard.
I just try to remember that I agree with 95% or what most Americans think. It's that 5% that get's us throwing rocks at each other. Same goes with 49er fans. We all want the same thing 99% of the time, it's that 1% that get us insulting our fellow 49er brethren.

Nfl Network reports - Cutler traded to bears.

Thanks for telling Matt he was on the tube. Im sure he knew, but I tuned in!

No more Cutler!! Snap back to REALITY!

Why are we Clueless, gutless, moronic, inept? Two # 1's and a #3 and a player (Shawn Hill) is not worth Cutler. I would play that for a stone cold LOCK like a Brady, Manning, Brees, but Cutler has a few too many question marks. Did you forget Alex Smith beat him head to head a few years back and was the better player on the football field? That's not me endorsing Alex, its me questioning Cutler at that high of a price.

Well, I think Sing and McC's presence at their Pro Day, plus us having Sanchez for a visit certainly gets those smokescreens going, but you're right, more push wouldn't hurt.

opps, Maiocco isnt on the tube

If you are satisfied going into the season with Hill or Smith (or Huard) as the starter, and think we have a fart's chance in hell of winning a Super Bowl with those guys, you deserve a job in the Niner's front office. And why do we need to hold on to those draft picks? So we can spend four more McClueless drafts rebuilding with next to nothing? They pissed away the chance to bet set at the QB position for the next decade like NE, Indy, Pitt, SD, Orleans, Philly, Atl, GB, NYG, etc. Guess what those teams have the chance at every year? A ring! Guess what the teams that can't find a QB have a chance at? Last place!!!

I think the Bears just showed how desperate they are. They gave up to much. They still don't have anyone to catch the ball. It will be interesting for the 49'ers at #10 if any quarterback is available.
I sure am happy that the 49'ers didn't make that move.

We get it, they suck, you're smarter than all of us.....

Cutler will make more of an impact on the Bears than he would have here. Better fit.

Lets give the bears some credit. Its not too wild of a move FOR THEM.

The Bears just became the #1 team in the NFC, great move by the Bears.

Denver is now the 49ers of the last 6 years.

The Lions will take Stafford, and until he is proclaimed a bust, the 49ers will be the laughing stock of the league for having the longest history of not having a decent QB. Even the Bungles managed have a QB.

We've got enough whining fans... Why add an overrated, whining QB too?

17-20 in games that Cutler has started... Really, what has he done?

Thank god you're not running this team...

That has to be the worst two people to host a 49ers post game show, or any bay area team post game show, I have ever heard of. Yuck! Radnich is a jerk, Willie Brown is a blowhard. I can't imagine anyone thinks this is a good idea, and yet it happens...Good thing I'm always at the games...

Raji failed his drug test at the combine! What an idiot!

You have to admit the Bears rolled the dice but IMHO that at was way too much for Cutler! That's five players(5 picks) for Cutler plus Orton. I am glad we didn't make that trade.

Excuse me. That's 3 picks( players) plus Orton

ATTENTION ALL NINER FANS: Feel very fortunate you didnt just get ripped off like the Chicago Bears just did.... The Broncos probably just recieved best case scenario for Jay Cutler. And for any Bear fan who thinks thier Super Bowl contenders, well guess what, you still have no recievers a bad defense and now your out a first round pick untill 2011. Oh yea and you now have a QB with the maturity level of an 17 year old. Enjoy.....

And since you're smarter than all of us wsmitty maybe you should start your own blog & call it "WSMITTY'S WHINER CLUB" you can invite all you cronies who just want to vent, whine & moan about the 49ers eh?

I would have gladly given up all of that for Cutler. Back to Smith and Hill again, which I am good with, but the thought of having a franchise QB for the first time since I was a teenager was great. They better have some awesome first round picks and some good QB play in the next season or two, otherwise the Sing & McC haters are going to always say "If only they had gotten Cutler, Sing would still be our coach" Just like Nolan has gotten crucified for not having a QB. It is a pretty simple formula, imo-QB,QB,QB,QB until you have a Manning, Brady, Montana, Young, Aikman, Elway, Marino, etc....If you want a ring.

I disagree. The Bears defense the last couple of years (ever since Rivera left) has been all hype and no performance. This is why Lovie Smith is now personally taking over running the defense. And, the Bears have now given away their first and third round picks and next year's number one. My guess is that the Bears remain no better than second if not third. Green Bay and, perhaps, Minnesota if it can get any quarterback play are better all around teams. Remember, Cutler couldn't lead the Broncos to one victory in their last four games when they needed it.

Bravo Bears!!! Our 3 idiots are slow on the trigger again. Success with #1 picks is a 1 in 3 shot on average. So why not take a sure thing franchise QB, it is a no brainer. Unfortunately, the 49er organization is run by no brainers!

Montana to Clark,

You can follow wsmitty to his new blog with the rest of the WHINERS!

The Niners fail to pull the trigger again. Wow, what kind of misfits are running this team? I have to wonder if we will get another 1st rounder in the draft that sits on the bench for most of the season. Seems like Singletary is taking this team nowhere fast.

The people running the Niners are just exercising good sense and good judgment, Lodi - activities that you and the lot of fantasy football stat freakers blurping their piddle on this site would be entirely unfamiliar with. The Bears, Jets, Bucs, and Lions are all desperate for a decent QB (which is all that Cutler has so far shown himself to be) and have to over-pay to get one. We're not desperate, not by a long shot.

totally agree. while the bears didn't get swindled per se, they did pay above market value for cutler, especially since it seemed that denver wanted to dump him right quick. another interesting note: cutler 17-20 vs orton 21-12. when did orton get so many games?

It would have taken a lot more than two #1's and a #3 to get Cutler for us. We did not have a QB to give back to them. They would not take Smith or Huard back and doubtful that they would consider Hill. It may have taken 3 #1's to get Cutler for us. The Broncs can now go after Cassel next year in FA.

We can put LodiSourGrapes on the list of WHINERS as well.

I dont think the 9ers failed to pull the trigger. They simply didnt have as much to give as the Bears. It's way too early to tell if the Bears gave up too much. If they have a great year, then everyone will say the trade was well worth the price. If they have a bad year, everyone will say it was a bad deal for the Bears. Personally, I don't care either way. Time to move on and talk about the 9ers 10th pick, Orakpo.

You are exactly right. Remember all that fuss about not going after OT's early in the year...then it came out we went after two of the top ones

Thinking about it, I don't know if it was too much for the Bears. It would've been to much for us, but them? Dunno.

You say that Cutler is just a decent QB. If Cutler, who makes the pro-bowl in his third year and had to carry a team with the worst defense in football, is just a decent QB, then the 49ers have crap for QBs and you have the IQ of a house plant!

If the 49ers use the tenth pick for a defensive end, defensive tackle, wide receiver, safety or offensive tackle, I'm almost OK with their apparent non-pursuit of Cutler, even though it means they'd rather pay Kurt Warner $15M/year than pay Cutler $18.5M over the next three. After all, the Broncos probably think a lot more of Kyle Orton than Shaun Hill, even though Orton's a mediocre quarterback who continually gets his picture posted on the internet with a bottle of Jack Daniel's in his hand.

(click here for an example: http://deadspin.com/sports/nfl/oh-you-didnt-forget-about-kyle-did-you-164069.php)

If the 49ers choose Mark Sanchez with their first round pick, again saddling the team with an expensive rookie quarterback whose relatively small amount of college experience came against mostly over-matched opponents (sound familiar?), it would be extremely disappointing. To go from bending over backwards for the Warners to signing another high-priced project would be very foolish, especially with a proven talent (albeit a whiny one) like Cutler on the trading block.

I get a kick out of tards like F49er and Randy in SR that can't hack us realistic fans being on this site. Last time I checked, the blog wasn't titled "MM's Blog for delusional and brain dead fans". We have as much right to come on here and voice our opinions and displeasure as you do with your McCluess suck-up sessions. How does 32-64 over the last six seasons smell to ya? This organization is clueless, inept, rudderless, gutless. I won't judge Sing because he may turn out to be a good coach, but he will not win because he DOESNT HAVE THE PLAYERS. Apparently you tards are satisfied with mediocrity every year. I am not. I want a shot at the Super Bowl. We will never get there with McClueless. So blabber all you want about the "Whiner" fans, I have passion and realistic objective views of this team. They suck, plain and simple. And they will continue to suck until they get a talented GM that can bring in talented players, most importantly a friggin QB.

Hi Matt, Like most fans I would've welcomed Cutler as the 49er QB, but it's a high pricetag. If Stafford or Sanchez drop to 10th then we could be in a great spot to deal. Can anyone remember the Bears' last franchise QB? Most of your parents weren't born yet. The answer Sid Luckman, I believe his last season was 1950.

Bravo and well said. PS You should have included Jed the boy-king as part of the huge problem.

Shanahan made Cutler. I wouldn't doubt if the firing of Shanahan also had something to do with his crying in the public!
Shanahan is a tough no nonsense guy like Walsh was, and probably had his hands full. But he obviously was trying to teach the kid the ins and outs of QBing in his brand of West Coast offense, (past great QB's he worked with were Young and Elway) and in the NFL game. Cutler ended up becoming a starter as a rookie, if I remember correctly. Shanahan saw the physical skills when he drafted Cutler. But I doubt if he knew the kid would turn out to be mentally a 10 year old. Even with all these psychological tests the NFL and teams give these rookies, either something didn't turn on a red light or Shanahan thought he could handle Cutler. But everybody makes mistakes.
Good luck Chicago! I really hope the Bears can make this kid tick right! If they don't, the fans in Bear land tend to get pretty rowdy! Especially when they expect a winning product! And guess who gets most of the blame!?

Cutler was a pretty good QB with Shanahan teaching him. Now let's see what happens without Shanahan. We'll get a better handle how good he'll be playing with the "never known for offense" Bears. It's still a pretty hefty price to pay for a still very young QB who may or may not pan out without a very good offensive coach.

This reminds me almost of what Ditka did to get Ricky Williams. The Bears defense has eroded into a bear patty. They have an offensive line that is aging and is in need of serious overhall. I feel like we can build through our draft if we make the right choices. A guy like Percy Harvin or Moreno would make our QB look real good. We need a PLAYMAKER. Our other holes can be addressed in the other rounds.

You guys are pathetic, really. I don's have any illusions about the State of the 49ers but I'm not going to go Curt Cobain on them either like you guys. And don't you guys get tired of bashing the 49ers front office? as if your sorry fools can make a difference with that same old broken record over and over. If you really think that there's no hope for the 49ers ask yourselves this... "why do I continue posting on this blog?" I'm anxious to get an intelligent answer from you tools.

The Niners suck!!!Why would we want a top tier quarteback well just stick to overpaying retread freeagents and making terrible draft day decisions.Has anyone elso noticed the trend of winning teams?Ya they have aQB and receivers.We have none!Mc Clueless is a GM?Are you kidding me?That guy is so over his head its amazing.Id bet my left walnut the Niners pass on Crabtree or Sanchez to draft some bonehead tackle.Can he catch or throw the ball because thats what we need?This team has no playmakers.I cant beleive Im starting to dispise the franchise Ive loved for so long.But its being run by MORONS!I bet the Niners never even talked about Cutler.Were going to have to waste another season watching Alice and his bum shoulder try to act like an NFL QB with his aw schucks no fire routine.God help me I will never give one dollar to this sorry regime!The Niners 2009 season is already over so dont get your hopes up!Alice Smith,Shaun Hill and Damon Huard?Wow that really gets me pumped up!!!What a joke.The Yorks took the greatest franchise in the history of the NFL and nosedived it into a six foot grave and now Mc Clueless is the groundskeeper.WE ARE DOOMED!

I get that you're upset, man. I'm upset too, but you're blaming old regimes for what's going on now. McCloughan has had his finger on the trigger for one year so far - look at last year's draft class, other than Larry Grant there's still a lot of promise there IMO - and the two drafts before that aren't that bad at all either. Those players + FA's are what fill the roster now. Do you really think we're THAT far from the postseason? Mike Nolan, Mike Martz, and JT O'Sullivan are responsible for the disaster that was the 1st half of this season, and I feel that Mike Singletary and Shaun Hill are responsible for the success of the 2nd. I strongly feel that we're 2-3 positions away from being a top team in the NFC, and I'm very optimistic we can fill those slots with this draft. I apologize for the length of that but that's where we are coming from, I think. For you to say that we've got stars in our eyes and you're the realistic ones is a little pessimistic. Come down off the cross, man, we're having a good time down here, and I think we're in for a pretty fun season.

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80f94007

Can someone, please, PLEASE explain to me why Cutler's 4526 yards, 25 TDs, 18 picks, and 86.0 qb rating over 16 games is so vastly superior to Hill's 2046 yards, 13 TDs, 8 picks, and 87.5 qb rating over 8.5 games?

Their numbers are a wash - Hill has a better QB rating, pro-rated less picks, and more TDs. Yes - he has a few less yards per game...

Those of you willing to trade Hill, plus 2 1st round draft picks, plus a 3rd round pick for an arguably worse QB? Are you all a bunch of idiots? Really...

Love your optimism merton but were a long way from the postseason..This team downrite sucks.Beside Willis and Gore,Spikes,Staley and Clements the rest of our team is scrubs and wouldnt even make it in the canadian league.Were closer to Detroit then we are New England my friend and I highly doubt MC Clueless could even find either on a map.And with the first pick of the 2010 draft the 49ers pick?(Enter next scrub here)

Hey maybee we were to busy looking around the league for more washed up free agents.Sorry guys,I should be so hard on mccloughan he was probably furiously working on a draft day trade for Charlie Batch,and Darryl Jackson.

Everyone needs to chill.

Sing said it... It's a new season. That’s why we play.

For now we can place the blame on Nolan. Move on. Root for/support the team. We have made changes, and if we suck this year then start to complain and leave all these negative comments. ( I think all of us 49er fans share most of the same frustrations )

Yeah we've been bad. And IF we are bad again this year let the complaining begin. But let’s keep the time between the Draft and week 4 negative BS free.

as I recall, NE didn't make it to the post season this go around either. we have a really weak division, so let's not give away the season when clearly, we have made upgrades at just about all positions except offensive coordinator.

No flip3, Not one rational person on this blog will be able to give you a solid explaintion on the Cutler/ Hill comparison and why on earth there is still people here moaning about Cutler when we have a solid QB already leading this team. (AND) im not saying Cutlers not solid but thats all he is. What really boggles my mind is that there are people here that think giving up 2 first round picks and a decent QB was a good trade for the Bears and would want the Niners to do the same? Really? I would rather use our pick this year and take Sanchez and then still have a number 1 pick to use next year too. Just boggles my mind.....

Considering what Da Bears gave up to get Cutler, it's just as well we weren't players. Wow, that's a sweet deal for Denver. They can draft a QB with one of their early picks, but have Orton to run the show while the youngster gets up to speed. If I'm the Broncs, I go after Freeman. They might have a shot at Sanchez, but I'm not sure how they feel about him.

Agree with curbing the cynicism. We all want a winner...and I believe Singletary will deliver one. Give him a chance to do his thing...so far, so good. Our defense has a chance to be good, maybe very good. I think the non-believers will learn to like Raye's offense, too. Give it time, folks.

Amen...

I doubt the Broncos will draft a QB with the pick. They will give Simms a shot, and now have Orton for insurance. And for all you clueless morons who think Cutler was worth what the Bears gave, and that we "failed to pull the trigger" for a "franchise QB" who would somehow lead us to the Super Bowl......you couldn't possibly be less intelligent. Apparently Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer were "franchise QB's" who were soooo amazing and the Bucs and Ravens would have been LOST without them and they never would have won those Super Bowls, right? Give me a break. You don't NEED a top QB to win a Super Bowl, it's a TEAM game. Cutler isn't that great anyway. Look at it this way.....we were smart enough not to trade our future for an overrated crybaby QB who wouldn't make much of a difference for us anyway. You should all be happy. If Hill and Smith both manage to suck this year (which they won't) then we can trade for a great QB next year, or draft one when the QB class will be much deeper. I don't know why I need to explain this. It's like I'm talking to a group of 11-year-olds.....

Thats because they don't teach about football in Madden Football or fantasy Football. These same people will be asking for Michael Vick in September..

Can you do yourself & the rest of us a favor GRINCH?

GO FIND ANOTHER TEAM!

You go find another team, perhaps the Bengals or Lions who are satisfied with sucking year in and year out. We true 49er fans are sick of sucking.

True 49er fan?

wsmitty you ARE dillusional! A true 49er fan you are NOT! So the 49ers suck, we get it. My question to you is "So what are you going to do about the 49ers sucking?" Try to come back with a valid answer & while you're at it you might want to mix in an IQ.

SERIOUSLY???? If you don't have a franchise QB, you can't win consistently in the NFL and you certainly aren't winning Super Bowls. Trent Dilfer, tell me again how many Super Bowls let alone playoff games he won in Tampa with arguably the best defense in the league every year???? Why have the 49ers sucked for 6 years, because they don't have an upper end QB, PLAIN AND SIMPLE! Why did the 49ers win 10+ games 17 seasons in a row, because of GREAT QB PLAY! NOW I'M DONE!

You said it, 4,500 yards, Montana never threw for that many. There is a reason Shaun Hill is a career journeyman, every Hill led scoring drive takes 10+ plays. Cutler is capable of scoring from anywhere on the field at anytime and you have to respect the threat, with Hill you don't. That is the HUGE difference.

F49er, wsmith thinks that being aware that the Niners haven't been good for a number of years is earth shattering news that only he and a few other chunk-heads here have noticed. Duh! These guys are so mired in the past they can't see the changes that have been made in the past year, and since he has never made a single post indicating any knowledge of the NFL or the Niners, it's safe to say he doesn't comprehend these changes or understand their impact on turning this franchise into a winner. That would take thinking, something too boring for a lazy mind to undertake. He'd rather just login, call people names, insult McCloughan, lose his temper, and act and talk like a boob. Whether this is due to genetics or upbringing is the endless philosophical question. However, I don't think I personally would like to meet his family. Perhaps I'm being overly squeamish.

So let me get this straight you were willing to give up 2 #1 picks, 3rd & 5th rounds picks plus a QB for Cutler who hasn't proven SQUAT! He hasn't even made the playoffs. You're insane, as I said before "Got to keep the loonies off the path"

Skeebers,

Now that was CLASSIC!

Future Hall of Famer Warren Sapp flunked a drug test and how many teams regret passing on him.

What are the changes that has been made that has changed this franchise? Just curious.

I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU

Realitycheck - There is a HUGE point you are missing: Sapp failed a random drug test in college. BJ went to the combine KNOWING he was going to be tested and still failed. I suppose they are both equally as guilty, but one is sure a lot more stupid than the other. To me, that's a character issue. If you know 100% that you are getting drug tested for months in advance at the NFL Combine and you still show up and fail the drug test you are an idiot and your addiction has become a problem. I'm curious to see which drug he tested positive for.

Here's what Jerry Angelo said ~
"It's all about the quarterback," he said. "You don't win because of wide receivers. You don't win because of running backs. You win because of the quarterback. We've got to get the quarterback position stabilized." ...... 'nough said.

this year, opposing defenses will be more prepared for S.Hill - and all the reason(s) S.Hill has been a career backup will become crystal clear. We'll all have to listen to Ralph "the downer" Barbieri rant for 4 hrs. a day on how much Hill sucks, and read his brother, Lowell "even more of a downer" Cohn's column on how inept our QB's are, etc. etc. etc. ......... mcGM and Coach Sing, I hope you two have a grand master secret plan that no one knows about to get us out of this mediocre QB situation.

Look you bunch of Cry Babies the trade is a done deal now, time to move on so you need to let it go now. Matt please post a new article so the rest of us won't have to continue to hear the miniature violins.

A VERY good read for all you Cutler lovers:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/ninerinsider/detail?blogid=45&entry_id=37950

IT WAS MARIJUANA...

Matt -- caught your bit on Path to the Draft, well done! You seem like the only media source that's come out and said they're likley looking at a tackle.

Everyone else is just CONVINCED we're going to go QB.

Not surprised the Niners couldn't compete in this deal. Would love Cutler, but we still have enough draft needs that shipping that many picks could set us back. It will be interesting to see how much Singletary gets out of Nolan's draft picks...so far, indications are leaning towards "a lot more".

That doesn't matter to me. What does - is this kid KNEW he was getting tested and still failed. That means he has a problem. PERIOD!!! GM's in the NFL will take the same stance. They don't care much about the positive weed tests, HOWEVER, when a player fails a drug test at the Combine, a player that is a lock for the top 10 in the draft, when everyone knows you are getting tested, its a huge red flag. BJ couldn’t stay away from his bong for 30 days to get past the NFL Combine? Common RealityCheck – its not about what he tested positive for, its about getting caught when you know you are getting tested.

Comment: You seem like the only media source that's come out and said they're likley looking at a tackle. Everyone else is just CONVINCED we're going to go QB.

My response: Just wait until my next post. --Matt M.

You said u were "curious to see what drug he tested positive for"

From PFT.com:

Given that players are repeatedly told by the NFL, combine officials and their respective representatives that they will be tested for recreational and performance-enhancing drugs at the combine, it’s an even bigger red flag for someone to test positive at that venue.

I am curious. Reports also say that two of the SC linebackers, Clay Matthews and Brian Cushing, tested positive for Steroids at the Combine. If true, that's an even BIGGER red flag for me. It means their both really stupid and their numbers are artificially inflated.

Look at the Little Man acting like a tough guy behind his keyboard. You call yourself a real fan?? LOL!! You're the sole reason we Niner fans are labeled as Whiner fans... Get out of the past already. Let me guess, you're still wearing a mullet?

Kevin Lynch summed this situation up nicely. Again, I'm glad you're not running this team... We'd never win a game. I know you like to call McCloughan McClueless, but you're only being a hypocrite by doing so...

Here's some knowledge for you, Little Man:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/ninerinsider/detail?blogid=45&entry_id=37950

Mike i hope you are not using an article to justify any point of not pursuing a QB. Jay Cutler or any other QB. That is one of the most ignorant articles ive read, but im not surprised it came from a beat writers. Beat writers have no credibilty because they do not honestly critique the team.But they are great for inside information because they do have good relationships with the teams they cover. Any writer that tells fans of a team that has one of the worst QB situations in the NFL. That Shaun Hill is better for the 49ers than Jay Cutler would be is ignorant and ANYONE who believes that B.S. is an complete idiot!

Cushing being on roids isn't exactly a shocker...

Randy in Santa Rosa how can u be criticle of fans who want the best for the team? Certain fans are realistic about where this team is and where its going. WSMITH is a fan who can see things for what they are and knows better than to listen to the B.S. that comes outta McCloughans mouth. To me its guys like you who look stupid year after year, when the team wins a few meaningless games at the end of the season and your back kissing the ass of a front office that makes bad decision after bad decision year end and year out. Its not that your a bad fan ,but your just a not a very smart one. You are the type of fan that allows mediorcrity to fester and unfortuanately there are a lot of you out there.

SERIOUSLY???? You CAN'T possibly be THIS stupid. My point was that the Bucs and Ravens won Super Bowls without having a good QB, so you obviously CAN win a Super Bowl with an average QB. I never said they were good. The 49ers sucked for 6 years because they didn't have a quarterback, running game, offensive line, receivers, pass rush, or secondary. Why did the 49ers win 10+ games 17 seasons in a row, because of great players ALL AROUND. Now I'M done, because you obviously don't get it, so you never will get it.

f49er-probably best not to cast your pearls before this lot...there are different levels of understanding in all things and some only reach as far as the notion that vitriol and fingerpointing constitute knowledge and authority. They have a right to an opinion ...fortunately not a right for said opinion to be taken seriously'

Too Sweet...Its seems like you are the STUPID ONE. You use the Bucs and Ravens as 2 examples of teams not having good QBs to win Super Bowls. But since you like calling names, i got one for u. IDIOT! Outta 47 Super Bowls your dumb azz comes up with 2 examples where a poor QB played on the winning team. You proved his point, and that why YOU ARE A COMPLETE UNADULTERATED IDIOT!

Just a couple of thoughts on the whole Cutler mess:

- Everyone keeps making a big deal out of the fact that Cutler is a Pro Bowl quarterback. Well, so was Kordell Stewart. Hardly a franchise QB.

- As for those who tout Cutler's 4,526 yards? Just because a guy throws for 4,500 yards doesn't guarantee success:

1. Dan Marino, 5,084 in 1984: Shut down by the Niners in Super Bowl XIX.
2. Drew Brees, 5,069 in 2008: 8-8, missed the playoffs.
3. Kurt Warner, 4,830 in 2001: Lost Super Bowl XXXVI.
4. Tom Brady, 4,806 in 2007: 18-0 start, couldn't win the one that counted.
5. Dan Fouts, 4,802 in 1981: Lost to Cincinnati in the AFC title game.
6. Marino, 4,746 in 1986: 8-8, missed the playoffs.
7. Daunte Culpepper, 4,717 in 2004: 8-8, lost in the divisional playoffs.
8. Fouts, 4,715 in 1980: Lost to the Raiders in the AFC title game.
9. Warren Moon, 4,690 in 1991: Lost to Denver in the divisional playoffs.
10. Rich Gannon, 4,689 in 2002: Lost to Tampa Bay in Super Bowl XXXVII. Threw three INTs for TDs.

See where I'm going? Of this group, only Warner and Brady have rings - but in different years. You have to go all the way down to Peyton Manning at No. 25 for the highest yardage total of a Super Bowl-winning QB (4,397 in 2006) - and he finished second to Brees that year.

Side note: Montana's top yardage total in a Super Bowl-winning season was 3,630 in 1984. He threw for 3,944 in 1990, but the Niners lost to the Giants in the NFC title game that year.

ED are u giving us an excuse for why its alright for us to have one of the worst QB situations in the NFL. Why is so many people making excuses for a team being bad?

Who said anything about saying Hill would be better for the 49ers than Cutler? That's not the point you tool! The whole argument is about compesation in the trade. You guys are unbelievable!

No...but why are so many people making excuses for Cutler not making the playoffs? "Well...his defense sucks." "Well...his running backs keep getting hurt."

Bull. If Cutler were really the "franchise" QB everyone says he is, he would have taken that team on his back and willed it into the playoffs. The truly great QBs do what it takes to get the job done - no excuses.

Instead, we have a guy who throws for 359 yards and NO TOUCHDOWNS against Buffalo with a playoff berth on the line. We have a guy who won only twice against playoff teams in 2008 - and he needed Ed Hochuli's divine intervention to get one of them.

Oh, and as for the other stat everyone trots out, Cutler's glowing 13-1 record when the defense gives up 21 points or fewer? Shaun Hill is 6-1 under the same conditions.

Im refering to the link that was posted by Randy to the article that Kevin Lynch wrote: "The 49ers are far better off with Shaun Hill, despite the weaker arm. As a starter, Hill not only compiled a higher passer rating than Cutler, but he captured the locker room. Despite limited skills, Hill seems to have a symbiotic effect on the team - the 49ers are better with him as their quarterback and their leader. Trading for Cutler could have undermined all of that and sent a strange message to the rest of the team. Hill is a working-class quarterback, who in his brief career as a starter, has proven he can lead a fourth-quarterback comeback and that he can win." WTF....Totally ridiculous.

LOL, sooo harsh. Those are two teams this DECADE that managed to pull it off. The point I was trying to make is that Cutler won't make or break us. It's a TEAM game, not one player. Not even Peyton Manning could have won us a Super Bowl under Erickson or Nolan. I'm done with this. I'll let F49er and Ed E. finish ripping you to shreds. You clearly aren't even on their level in terms of common sense

Thanks for another voice of reason that has some true credibilty on this blog! I feel that the niner brass did the right thing by standing down on this cutler craze.