Matt -- Just curious on how you would compare your thoughts generally about the team now compared to this time last year and going into the 2007 season, which had some similar optimism coming off the strong finish in 2006?

Arnez on the finge??? Wow...never thought I'd see the day. Niners, PLEASE keep J.Hill.

let us never mention Darrell Jackson and Taylor Jacobs ever again.

Question: Just curious on how you would compare your thoughts generally about the team now compared to this time last year and going into the 2007 season, which had some similar optimism coming off the strong finish in 2006?

My response: I thought the 49ers of 2007, heading into the season, were vastly overrated. The '06 team was not very good. Their 7-9 record was accomplished with smoke and mirrors. This team, from top to bottom, is a heck of a lot better. --Matt M.

What do you think the chances are the niners would throw Davis on IR? It seems a bit risky to try to get him through waivers. If they do, what are his limitations as far as what he's allowed to do with the team?

I would add right tackle as a key position where the 9ers could either be very good or very bad.

I'm not optimistic about Raye's play calling ability having read a great deal about his offense's lack of production. I am however guardedly optimistic about the 9ers chances as the overall roster appears to be considerably more talented than years past.

nice job MM....whatever happened to duckket the DL converted to OL....

Thank you Matt for the great coverage and insight concerning the team. It is nice to hear that Raye may not be too conservative in his play calling, and that the QB's will have an option to call audibles. Also nice to hear that this may be the best team, as far as quality surrounding players, that Alex Smith has had the opportunity to play with.

Matt, if you were frank only in the last sentence, what were you in the rest? less than frank?

(signed) The Grammar Police

Matt,
Your updates and insights on the 9'er are greatly appreciated.
Your daily dose of 9'er news really gets me pumped up on the team.
How is any 9'er fan going to survive on until July 30?
I can't wait for the season to kick in.

Damane Duckett is currently a FA, after being signed and released (sort of like catch and release) by the Pats earlier this year. Ironically, we cut him because we had signed OT Jacob Bender off NE's PS late last season.

thks....i missed that..

Matt, has OTA's given you any stronger opinion on who would win the CB competition b/w Brown and Bly?

Dear Grammar Police,

That would be a logic problem, not a grammar problem if it were a problem at all.

Grammar

Police HQ

Matt

Really enjoy your reporting, and your willingness to share (in print) your opinions that at least one or two folks are certain to bring back and rub on your nose if you happen to miss the mark by a millimeter or more.

Looking forward to reading your blog through training camp and during hte season.

Grammar cops, you're working the wrong beat. Tisn't grammar and tain't logic. It's semantics.

Place Nate Davis on IR.

Shootme and others who have brought up the IR issue. A player that is placed on IR is NOT allowed to practice with the team during the season. How on earth do you suggest we develope a QB when he is unable to practice with the team?

49ers faithful. Matt's comment about Vernon Davis great season (including bonehead plays) brought an interesting observation to mind. I think a great weakness with Vernon is his ability to see the field. He has God-Given speed for his size but he never seems to be patient in his routes and an even larger discrepancy is his innability to get RAC yards. I think he has a huge tendancy to run to a spot on the field, catch the ball and then try to juke defenders. Instead he needs to figure out where the defeders are, then catch the ball and make a move immediately. Ok i'm done, this will probably be my only post this year. GO 9ers!!!!

According to the official NFL injured reserve rules, once a player is placed on the I.R. list, he is unable to return to play until the end of his team's current schedule. Furthermore, he may not practice with his team until the conclusion of that season.

Ignore this pedantic post.

It's only semantics if you're questioning the meaning or connotation of "frankly". That discussion could be interesting because, frankly, it's often a throw away phrase.

The question, as framed by Realfan49, asks how Matt's frankness reflects on the rest of the article. His logical conclusion is that Matt's stated end note of frankness calls in question the tone of the rest of the blog.

I'm sorry for this entire post, and hope we can keep this forum spelling and grammar free. (as all good sports forums should be)

Go Niners

Matt,

Excellent breakdown of the OTA's. Your comments made me think of some aspects that I hadn't thought of before. It makes me appreciate the 09' 49ers talent even more. Mike in SF #2 good point on the IR "reach" for Nate. Not only that but...ah...wouldn't Nate actually have to be injured to go on IR thus he would be worthless his 1st yr with the 49ers. Not a very good "pie in the sky" wish.

Hey Matt,

With regard to Nate Davis...I know the 49ers have cap room to maneuver with.

How about they designate Davis to the practice squad, but pay him the kind of money that such a prospect would command in the market, while assuring him that Huard probably won't be around next year and that they'd like to develop him as the 49er quarterback of the future?

That should help dissuade suitors from calling and keep him from accepting any offers.

I read this, as far as practice squad compensation:

Minimum salary for a practice squad player shall be $4,700 per week for the 2006-07 League Years, $5,200 per week for the 2008-10 League Years and the 2011 League Year if it is an Uncapped Year, and $5,700 per week for the 2011 League Year if it is a Capped Year and the 2012 League Year, including postseason weeks in which his Club is in the playoffs. A higher salary can be negotiated.

If they show him respect and a higher salary, I assume he wouldn't be too anxious to jump to another team.

The problem with the PS isn't salary, the Niners can pay Davis more, as NE did with one of their PS players recently. The problem is clearing waivers. No chance.

Going on IR wouldn't really hurt. Davis is essentially useless to the team this year, anyway. In fact, carrying 4 QBs would be hurtful to the team. And he's insurance in case Smith or Hill is unable to become the Franchise this year. Although he can't practice with the team, he can watch them practice and study the playbook. If Hill or Smith don't look like the real deal this year, Davis can be turned loose next year, thoroughly familiar with the offense and the players. There's just the little matter of a reasonable injury. We may have to call in Tonya Harding around the 4th pre-season game. With a rubber hammer, of course.

Just saw Joe Staley and Marvel Smith push a 15,000 pound truck two yards on "Sports Science". Pretty damned impressive display. Go Niners!!!

I think we are too excited with Davis' prospect. As much as we would love to see if he develops, is he really that necessary from this teams logistical stand point to go through having 4 qbs and losing a critical roster spot? We need to look at it from an organizational stand point. Does the front office feel they have to keep Davis?

They have 2 first round picks that could easily transfer into a TOP QB next year if smith and hill are not the answer. Huard could even be the starter for a year if we needed to do that. I think what it boils down to is this, they would like to keep Davis but he is not so important to their formula and that means they are willing to take a chance on seeing if he gets through waivers.

Another option is to keep 4 roster QB's and let one of the other back up/back up players in another position more likely to get through waivers get put there and then if injuries dictate we need that player shuffle another player to bring them back OR try at that point to move Davis to practice squad. I would think later in the year moving Davis to the Practice squad would be more likely to work than at the start of the year. Wouldn't this work or is there a rule against it I don't know about?

Sorry for the poor grammer in last post hope it is understandable. My mind isnt "all there" today

Hope the grammer police dont attack my post

hey matt, I was very impressed by Jason Hills developement last year ( maybe becasue I'm a Sacred Heart grad '86 ) other than his durability issues what does the coaching staff think about him ? and will he be a victim of the Brandon jones signing ? Thanks Matt, oh by the way I'm also a gael ( know how you hold us close to your heart )

The league would not allow the 49ers to "create" an injury to put Nate Davis on IR. Furthermore, if his agent is doing his job he would fight against such a bogus "injury," too. How does that help Davis' development? He can't practice with the team, so this season would be an absolute waste.

The idea of the 49ers paying him more to remain on the practice squad has a few flaws. First, teams are not able to enter into those kinds of handshake agreements with players. Plus, why would Davis turn down another team when he has the chance to get an accrued NFL season this year? And, lastly, the 49ers would still be taking a chance. They'd be out the signing bonus they're going to pay him, and Davis would be eligible to sign with the highest bidder at the end of the season. --Matt M.

Comment: Just saw Joe Staley and Marvel Smith push a 15,000 pound truck two yards on "Sports Science".

My response: Hmmm . . . Let me get this straight, the 49ers held Marvel Smith out of 11-on-11 work as a precaution because of his back injuries, but he's good enough to help push a 15,000-pound truck? That makes a lot of sense. --Matt M.

Hey Matt, you said that "Michael Crabtree, Glen Coffee and Nate Davis are the only rooks who have yet to sign their deals." Does this mean that contracts have already been extended to them, that they just have to sign them?

I would keep Davis over A.Smith if it came down to wanting Huard so bad. Hill is the starter and Smith is in over his head. Let Huard back up Hill and groom Davis to be in position to compete for the backup role next year.

2009 episode"Ultimate Nut Jobs", but it's impossible to tell when it was filmed. Maybe it's a case for an investigative sports reporter.

Is dsyxlexia a season ending injury?

Unless Davis seems hopelessly lost during TC, they will keep him, and probably 4 QBs. If he has any potential and they try to pass him through waivers (and he gets snagged), then McL gets a demerit for using a 5th rounder on him, IMO. I think we already had Huard on board when we drafted him.

Good point on the IR angle upthread. That seemed sketchy. And unless A Smith turns into a cowering ball of useless during the preseason, he will not be waived. No way.

It really could be a tough call. I just would HATE them to lose Davis through impatience and have him turn into an uber stud for someone else. The whole waiver>>PS route seems risky especially when teams are hungry for potential at QB.

Matt -- thanks for a really great blog.

Razoreater wrote...| June 18, 2009 4:07 PM |
I would keep Davis over A.Smith if it came down to wanting Huard so bad. Hill is the starter and Smith is in over his head. Let Huard back up Hill and groom Davis to be in position to compete for the backup role next year.
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Exactly !!! If they absolutly have to keep Smith,because his salary is soooo cheap or whatever the reason,then they must keep 4 QB's or cut Huard,who is clearly a better QB than Smith.
Davis is the only player on the team that could possibly be the Franchise QB of the future.They were very,very lucky to get such a talent in the 5th round (a bunch of GM's got suckered by the overplayed Dyslexia scare). They simply must find a way to secure Davis . It's too bad that a good player would need to be cut from the 53 man roster to make room for the kid (a player who could help this year). Too bad Alex didn't decide to move on,it would have been perfect with Hill,Huard and Davis.
Oh well,if they believe in Smith's future possibilities,then they will just need to bite the bullet and keep 4 QB's or cut Huard and hope alex can finally show enough to be a solid performer as the backup.

**Hey Matt, you said that "Michael Crabtree, Glen Coffee and Nate Davis are the only rooks who have yet to sign their deals." Does this mean that contracts have already been extended to them, that they just have to sign them?**

No, it means the market for those higher selected players hasn't been set yet and both sides are waiting to see how things shake out before negotiating a final deal.

Interesting... So you think Moore is safer than Brooks, Matt? I figured it might be the other way around ;-)

Also, how is Willis doing in terms of vocal leadership? Does he seem more comfortable? Do you see any other guys stepping up in that role as well? Thanks.

Matt,

You mentioned 2 drafted QBs were put on the PS last year. I'm assuming you would have mentioned it if either were claimed? Since the PS was expanded to 8 players, has any QB been claimed from it? My gut feeling is that if Nate shines in the preseason, we may want to IRedshirt him. OTOH, if he looks plenty raw, he may well be safe to stash on the PS. FWIW, we did carry 4 QBs in 2005. Maybe he can be on ST, or play some scout team WR or safety, like Cody Pickett!

I have been watching closely for info on the Harris/Moore/Brooks competition at the back-up OLB slots. It looks like you’re putting Brooks at the back at this time. Is this mainly because he’s got to catch up, given that he’s switching from ILB, or is there more to it?

Wow...God is going to strike me down for laughing at that.

Hey Matt . . . greetings again from the 707. I have a question on practice squad claim procedures. When a team submits a claim for a practice squad player, does the current team get the first opportunity to add the player to their 53 man if they want to keep him?

Thanks . . . enjoy your NFL lull.

Go Giants.

I don't think waiving a late round rookie QB, which is what Davis presently is, to get him to the Practice Squad is all that risky unless he plays very well in pre-season games; and, the 49ers can easily guard against that by not playing him in pre-season games this year.

Remember, all the teams toughest cuts are at the last cutdown. And, each team is likely to be keeping an injured player or two who is unavailable early in the season on the 53 man roster to avoid exposing them to waivers or the IR list until after the final cutdown. So another team would have to want Davis, who would provide that team no help this year and sight unseen if the 49ers are careful, over someone they kept at cutdown and their "sneakthrus." Further, the 49ers already know that every team passed on Davis at least four times in the draft and the teams with a worse record than the 49ers and a lower draft position five times.

Simple solution, Davis doens't play in any pre-season games this year. And, it isn't like the 49ers have a surplus of available minutes at the QB slot this pre-season. Hill & Smith likely split halves the first two games, the winner of their competition plays the first three quarters of the third game; the loser the 4th quarter. The loser of the competition starts the fourth and final game and gives way to Huard so he gets some game reps. Where is the problem?

Hill is not a franchise quaterback period. Hill is in the same class as Ratay they will win some games. They are stop gap quaterbacks. The good defenses will negate Hills intangeables simple by not having to worry about the real long pass. If they dont have to worry about the ball going over the top then they can play tighter hence running game diminishes a little and the short pass diminishes a little. I personally would let Hurd go keep Davis and Smith with Hill starting. I also would let Bruce go. He is not a mentor. We have coaches who are suppose to teach receiving. Releasing Hurd is a little tougher as experience at this position is needed. However the only time we need a experience vetern of Hurds stature is if we are in resonable contention for the playoff and Hill and Smith go down. If we are not in the playoff hunt then Hurds experience doesnt matter and we get a real high draft choice nest year with one of our number one picks.

It's a good thing you & TOP_CAT aren't the decision makers for the 49ers on finalizing the 53 man roster. I'll leave it up to coach Sing & his staff to do that since they have all the NFL experience not to mention they ACTUALLY see & evaluate the players on a daily basis.

Nate Davis is an interesting case indeed -is he the vastly underrated next big thing that several proponents here have postulated?This question will be difficult to answer in his first year -as mentioned above he will not in all likelihood play much in the preseason and he has some learning difficulties which will necessitate a slower start than some. However, there is just something about this kid that needs to find a place here...and if we try the practice squad route he's gone most likely, therefore if Hill/Smith look strong in preseason I agree with the previous post -maybe Huard gets released.

Yes very good points Drew especially about Davis being a 5th round draft pick! So more than likely this is much ado about nothing as usual. Guys (Razor & TOP) don't get your chonies in a bunch just yet.

Nate Davis is a 6'1" QB taken in the fifth round with a learning disability. I like him but he probably will be on the practice squad unless an injury ocurs to one of the other QBs. I doubt he will get much work in pre-season and won't will be picked up by another team on waivers. He needs time to develop.

I am hoping he will have a NFL career as he seems like a nice kid. SF is a great place for him to develop. Next year he will have more of an opportunity to make the team.

Matt,
I'm curious why you think that Jay Moore is very likely to make the final roster. He has battled injuriesd and his durability must be an issue. I also disagree that Huard is not on the bubble. I think he was signed before it was clear that Smith has recovered from his injuries and is a real contender. It would make sense to carry two strong QBs and Davis as a potential future prospect. Huard's position looks real shaky to me.

Comparing Hill to Rattay is nuts...no resemblance whatsoever. Assuming Alex continues to get back on track, I think for this season, keeping 4 QB's makes the most sense. Doing anything other than putting Davis on the active roster is just too risky. Just suck it up for this season...next year, Davis becomes the #3 and they release Huard. It might mean only 5 WR's, but that's workable. We're deeper at that position now...so makes sense to keep Davis on the roster so Coach Johnson can work with him and have him ready for the 2010 season. Doing this also frees Mac to use next year's two 1st rounders on a big NT and top OL.

am I the only one who is missing Zac Keasey?

is there any chance he'll stick with the team?

If Norris goes on IR Keasey has a small chance to stay.

To answer your question, YES you are the only person missing Zac Keasey. Keasey seemed entirely out of place at FB IMHO. Of course the coaches know a hell of a lot more than I about his play but he did not do as good a job as Moran Norris. Perhaps he might stick if he can add value on special teams but the 9ers already have Michael Robinson to fill that role.

Comment: Matt, I'm curious why you think that Jay Moore is very likely to make the final roster. He has battled injuriesd and his durability must be an issue. I also disagree that Huard is not on the bubble.

My response: I placed Moore and Huard in the "strong chances" of making the final roster category. Moore showed a strong commitment to being around the team last season when he was injured. He's healthy now and much further along in his transition from DE to OLB than he was last year. Right now, my guess is Marques Harris and Moore have edges for backup OLB spots over Ahmad Brooks. As for Huard, one team source who will certainly have a voice in the decision-making process raved to me about him the other day. He's the kind of player who is great in a QB room and effective as a backup. --Matt M.

Question: . . . Zac Keasey . . . is there any chance he'll stick with the team?

My response: The 49ers paid good money to bring back Moran Norris. The reason Keasey made the team last season was because his quicker, more-mobile style was a better fit for Martz's offense. Keasey has a chance, but it won't be easy for him. He must show he can fit in a power-running game, too. --Matt M.

Matt, what's your take on how the Niners will be using Evans? It seems he's been playing at RDE mostly, and with Justin Smith never coming off the field, how will Evans ever get on it. With Lawson and Haralson and Smith ticketed for the pass rush line, who would be the 4th guy? Evans, Balmer, Soap?

The NFL not only ignored Nate Davis multiple times in the draft. Only one club attended his pro day. I foresee only that interested party (Colts) possibly filing a claim; everyone else is more likely to let Davis develop with the 9ers & can always sign him off a PS later. He's a long-term project anyway.

Davis was also an underclassman (not a great NFL track record at QB) who finished his career with spectacular meltdowns. In this sense, he's not even a Tyler Thigpen, who had at least impressed in the 2007 Gridiron Classic & whom Minny backfired later in sneaking him down to the PS.

> When a team submits a claim for a practice squad player, does the current team get the first opportunity to add the player to their 53 man if they want to keep him?

No, there is no claim-filing process involved, unlike with the waiver wire. Every taxi-squader is a FA. He can choose to stay put (Marcus Maxwell), join an active roster elsewhere (Larry Grant), or have his agent send advance word to encourage an internal promotion (Harvey Dahl?).

> am I the only one who is missing Zac Keasey?

He is more of a RB-FB after converting from LB. Used to get the garbage carries at the close of preseason game. That SF preferred Moran Norris over Leonard Weaver wasn't not "good" news in this sense. We obviously wanted a purer lead-blocker, & M-Rob can also do the other stuff Keasey does.

blitzonic wrote| June 19, 2009 9:54 AM | ...

The NFL not only ignored Nate Davis multiple times in the draft. Only one club attended his pro day. I foresee only that interested party (Colts) possibly filing a claim; everyone else is more likely to let Davis develop with the 9ers & can always sign him off a PS later. He's a long-term project anyway.

Davis was also an underclassman (not a great NFL track record at QB) who finished his career with spectacular meltdowns. In this sense, he's not even a Tyler Thigpen, who had at least impressed in the 2007 Gridiron Classic & whom Minny backfired later in sneaking him down to the PS.
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Blitz: Davis did not have spectacular meltdowns at the end of the season as you stated. He was sick as a dog in his second to last game and probably should not have gone onto the field. He sucked it up and tried to play because he knew that he and he alone carried the team on his shoulders and they were 12-0 at that stage of the season and were trying for an undefeated season. He was sick and he played like the weakened player he was. I don't blame him for that loss at all but commend him for his guts. In the Bowl game he sucked and you could call it a meltdown if you want. I guess every QB gets to have 1 bad game out of 14 ?
We all know that Davis was rated much higher than Freeman before the overblown stories about Davis' dyslexia surfaced before the draft and before the combine performance of Freeman. Some even projected Davis as possibly going to be the top QB chosen in the 2009 draft (before the last 2 games and the dyslexia scare sent the ignorant GM's running away,luckily for the Niners ). Scotty had him in and decided the dyslexia was not a bigdeal on the football field for Davis and he would learn just fine. Scotty may have picked up the gem of the entire draft in Davis ,who has much more raw tlent than any QB on our roster and may have more talent than any QB drafted in years,who knows? If Davis lives up to his potential (IF) then we will have out Franchise QB for the next decade. It would be extreemly foolish to give other teams who need a 3rd QB to develop a free chance to pick him off our PS ,when we are in big time need of a QB to develop ourselves. Remember that if a player is to be put on the PS that he must be CUT first and go through waivers. Any team can pick him up for free and he would be a plum pickup for free as the developmental QB on several teams rosters(the Niners included!). And then we must remember that even if he does clear waivers that he can be plucked off the PS at any time by any team without any ability of the Niners to stop it. And then on top of all that if on the PS for 2009 ,even if he doesn't get picked up,he would then be a free agent in 2010 and he would be a young stud QB with all the raw talent in the world,with a years more experience practicing in the NFL,if nobody wanted him in 2009 then certainly he would be too much to resist in 2010 for some needy team. Right now WE are that needy team and we are going to sign him ,so we might as well keep him and not blow the chance that he might be the QB of the future and not just give him and the signing bonus $ away for free to another needy team.
Maybe he flops in the long run,who really knows,but maybe Sanchez and Freeman and the #1 pick from this years draft flop too,who knows?
Davis has the raw talent that we have been hopng for around here for years. Let's not give it away before we see if he is THE man for our future !!!

Frank wrote | June 18, 2009 10:43 PM |...
I think for this season, keeping 4 QB's makes the most sense. Doing anything other than putting Davis on the active roster is just too risky. Just suck it up for this season...next year, Davis becomes the #3 and they release Huard. It might mean only 5 WR's, but that's workable. We're deeper at that position now...so makes sense to keep Davis on the roster so Coach Johnson can work with him and have him ready for the 2010 season. Doing this also frees Mac to use next year's two 1st rounders on a big NT and top
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Exactly ! If Davis shows even part of his potential this season,we will be able to use those 2 #1 picks on something other than a QB in next years draft. That will be HUGE ! Two more playmakers on the team and still have a multi-talented QB of the future on the roster ! Sounds like the best of both worlds ! then in 2010 it would be Hill ,Smith and Davis on the roster (in that order,unless Davis progresses faster than expected or unless Alex continues to flop in games).

Top_Cat -- Stop rambling already. Can't keep up with the ad hominems & non sequiturs. lol

• Davis might have been sick at the MAC Game, but he was man enough not to seek excuses. To quote him: "I made some dumb decisions."
• His next game (GMAC Bowl) took place A MONTH later. Anyone who plea the flu alibi has not done his homework.
• Power to all dyslexics, but it's cavalier to infer a reading disorder is "overblown" when mastering a complex NFL playbook. (See Alex Boone's "another 200 plays" quip for context.)
• I estimate Davis got, at best, a grade between Josh Freeman's R2 & Omar Jacobs's R4 (2005) from the draft advisory comm.
• There were other attributable factors (underwhelming measurables, interviews) that reasonably tuned off the NFL to his pro day.
• Up to him to decide if SF is the best environs to learn his trade. Mike Johnson was his biggest endorser & seems to have connected with him the most. He also knows the other 9er QBs will be out of contract, & McCloughan possibly long gone, by Year 3 & ready to compete.
• Think he'll be only tempted by the 2-QB teams (Colts, Broncos, Texans; I doubt Jags & Saints are keen) if given a choice to move on.
• I don't anticipate the other 26 clubs to discard months of tutelage by swapping QB projects "last minute". Let's see how many preseason plans implode this badly first, to warrant taking a flyer on an unsought draft prospect not slated to get even the garbage snaps.
• IMO McCloughan, Singletary & Raye have been toeing the company line more in their comments about Davis. Given how the FO was willing to consider Warner, Vick & Huard earlier (in addition to stocking future draft ammo), I don't sense there's any anointed QBOTF in place yet.

When examining your projected roster spots Matt it really struck me just how strong the UDFA group is this year. Scott really did an excellent job -and in my estimation ranked within the top echelons of bolstering the talent level for his team! Seeing guys like Kory Sheets,Alex Boone and Nate Davis merely on the borders of making the team really is a remarkable situation for us ...my how things have changed.

Blitz: You misquote me wrongly . I never said that Davis didn't have a horrible game in the Bowl game and I never said he was sick duringv THAT game. It was his only bad game except the one where he was sick as a dog . Of course he didn't use the excuse he was sick,he is a MAN and wasn't looking for excuses(I am glad you realize that and credit Davis with his great attitude !). But of course others used that excuse for him and reported his gutsy performance,so we know the history of that game. That's all I reported to you,the history.
So his team lost 2 out of 14 games,I guess we would take that every year with the Niners ,lol !!!

And I am not the only one who knows the dyslexia report was over blown and DID cause GM's around the League to run for cover,it was widley reported and acknowledgedAnd Davis WAS on track by several reports to becoming a 1st or 2nd round pick. He was spoken of (when they were undefeated and before the dyslexia scare) as a possible first QB selection in the 2009 dradt.
And Warner was under consideration BEFORE the draft and after we didn't get Warner we then Drafted Davis.But even if we did get Warner we still needed a qBOTF in Davis because we don't have another one on the roster.
And you obviously don't understand that a talent like Davis ,once understood to not have a ral problem with his dyslexia on the football field,will be a desired piece of any team who needs a QBOTF to train .
And you still have not answered my main point (all your other answers flopped but you avoid the main points) ...Why would WE risk losing our possible QBOTF prospect when WE NEED a QB on our roster to train for the future. We draft him because of his great talent and potential and because of our great need in the future at the position and then we sign him and give him signing bonus' and then we train him for the year etc etc ,and then we just give up on him by placing him irresponsibly on the PS,and expose him to every other needy tream in the entire NFL? It doesn't sound logical does it. (except to you ,lol). If he stinks during camp and preseason then maybe they risk it ,who knows,but Alex has totally flopped and they still keep him around,so I assume we would also keep Davis around for a couple of years to see if we can get that great potential out of him.

Everything you wrote above is either wrong or irrelevant to anything I said in my posts about Davis. Nice try but no cigar for you !

Sorry for my further ramblings but your thought processes are so disjointed and confused that perhaps it wasn't my rambling but just your inability to understand my simple points of fact.

But we do agree that Davis ,like Smith etc,must prove himself before he is in fact our QB of the future. Right now he is only a great prospect,that should not be given away for nothing(our only prospect on out roster at this time). If we were just going to throw him on the PS and allow any team to grab him,then why draft him at all? IMHO,Getting Davis in the 5th round MAY have been as huge a coup as getting Crabtree in the 1st,or if Davis turns out to be as good as some believe it will turn out to be a bigger deal and bigger luck for the team than getting crabtree! Or he could turn out to be a flop,nobody knows.
But I for one believe in putting my gems in the safe and not leaving them out on the sidewalk for any passer by to pick up and claim as their own. You on the other hand believe in gambling and hoping nobody comes by and picks up your unsafguarded Gem and then takes that gem and sells it for a fortune,while you continue living in the poor house.
Glad you are not making any decisions for our team ,lol

But Blitz,don't misunderstand me...
I am fully aware and have stated my deep concern in several posts,that we will be cutting players off the roster that could help this year,in order to keep prospects for the future safe on the 53 man roster,instead of exposing them to the PS . I also agonize over the fact that Scotty and Sing may decide to keep a good player instead of cut him and instead place Davis on the PS in order to have the spot to keep such a player. That decision is up to them and if they do make the decision to place Davis on the PS then I will just have to hope they have deduced that the odds are great that he will remain with the team and not be claimed or not go somewhere else in 2010 when he is a free agent with a years NFL experience under his belt.
I know that Scott did not draft Davis just to pay him and then throw him out . Scott's judgemnt has been really good in just about every instance since Nolan has gone,so I will hope for him to once again make the proper decision. It's just that everyone makes mistakes sometimes. Since I am excited about Davis and have been hoping for the Niners to draft him for a long long time before the draft,I just hope that Scotty doesn't have one of his rare screw ups in the case of Davis . I know you understand. I of course don't KNOW if Davis will ever be a stud NFL QB. But he is that rare type that COULD be something special. I just hope he gets the chance to be that something special for us and not another team who picks him up for free because of a bad decision . Even though Davis will not contribute for at least another year,it is still the main worry I have for this preseason time,whether or not Davis is kept safe and given his chance with the Niners. I think almost every other issue is falling nicely into place . I am not even all that concerned,like most others seem to be about who is this years starting QB (I believe it will easily be Hill,but if Alex plays well enough to surprise,then good. But the future is my concern now,because even though I expect us to have a good chance to win our division,we will most likely not have any shot at the SB this year. But with Davis blossoming into his full potential (if that ever happens) I fully expect us to compete for the SB every year in our future. Without him on the roster and safe,who do we have ? Nobody that is who. We would need to use one or maybe both of those #1 picks next year to trade up and draft our future starter. It would be so much better if we could have Davis as that guy and use those picks for two playmakers to help Davis (either on O or D) to win those future SB's.In other words,if Davis flops or if we lose him by trying to place him on the PS,it would be a huge set back for the teams future.