Snyder against Mathis.....hmmm

We need to be using screen plays on first downs......lots of screen plays in this game

Why not give Alex Boone a chance? I am not sure he is worse than Chilo. Perhaps Snyder can stay ad RG. This is gonna be bad.

Smith line up 8 yards back, ALL WRs and TEs run verticals. Release in 3-4 seconds. If nobody is open, check down to RB or throw away.

Good luck.

The line needs to step it up, and the team needs to play disciplined. I think we can win. I would not expect alot of run play this time around. Indy's D should be somewhat confused due to lack of tape on Alex Smith this season. If we start to get even a smidge behind in this game, we will see that spread offense real quick. Especially with Smith's arm. Can't wait til Sunday!

Ugggghhhhhh!!!!!!

This OL keeps getting worse and worse....

Now we are back to:

LT - Staley
LG - Bass
C - Heitmann
RG - Rachal
RT - Snyder

How about getting Wragge in there for Chilo before Chilo makes me knock him out...

Maybe we will use our first round draft picks next year on two offensive linemen. Taylor Mays is good, but the last couple weeks USC has been getting the ball thrown on them pretty badly. He's a beast, but I am not completely sold....yet.

I am hoping we can get one of the top G's available in FA and the top T with that Carolina pick if Mays or Berry are not available... We could also just move clements to S

This plainly sucks.... there is no doubt we need not only depth but more quality on the line. It's good we have two spots on the first round!

Talking about the draft, Matt, whatever happened to the tampering charges against the Jets? Are we going to get something out of that?

SB

He commented on this last week in his dumb questions section...

Don't you think he would have commented on it if anything had developed... He's Matt Maiocco

Nice! Another piece down. Same old season we've had the past few. Start off great, hit the wall, change out a crappy qb, start a losing streak, and then the injuries. When is it going to change? I pray the salary cap era is finished.

WHYYYY don't we give Wragge a chance at RG? I haven't seen much of him, but from what I've seen he has always done a decent job when filling in. I think he deserves a shot.

What linemen are available out on the street? Maybe we can get Scott Gragg out of retirement...

Can anyone on the DL play both ways?

bad time for injuries to crop up when arizona is getting hot again...

it's not a must win... but damn it'd feel good to bust a streak!

I hope Alex's shoulder is screwed on real tight!

Talk about bad timing - Sims, Wragge, and Wallace only backups. Why don't the Niners use an off balanced line using two tackles on one side? Seems like many teams utilize this approach for running and passing so it should be in the Niner playbook.

I haven't seen Taylor Mayes play that much, but when he hit that ND reciever before he got to the end zone and the reciever ran over I wasn't too impressed.

Ok... to whomever mentioned Alex Boone: Great idea. let's play a practice squad guy against Robert Mathis. I'm surprised Sing hasn't thought about this already?

There is nobody decent out there available and the trading deadline has passed. We got what we got. The coaches are going to have to find a way to make it work. Let's hope they figure out a way to pull Richal's finger out...

Alex is being given a chance to prove he's the guy. If he doesn't work out, the 49ers are potentially going to use the draft to address the problem. I personally hope it doesn't come to that. I would like to see those picks go to other need areas.

Also, I've been hearing rumors about the 49ers possibly wanting to trade one of those picks down for more picks. I hear the brass may not want to pay 2 first rounders. But I'm sure that's going to depend on where they pick- and who's potentially available: and whether or not they are in the market for a QB. The 49ers have been mentioned in a few different articles about teams picking in the top 15 (don't all freak out- they always mention the Carolina pick) that would be in the market for a QB in the draft. Alex's performance over the next few weeks will help determine if that's the case. I wouldn't even bother asking Matt to comment on this as it's way too premature.

Little Caesar: In regards to Mays, the last 2-3 games I've seen I'm starting to have questions about his FS play. He's taken some bad angles and gotten burnt in few games. Now, his recovery speed and closing speed are absolutely ridiculous-

But right now he's reminding me more of an Adrian Wilson type...a devastating, huge SS who will kill people on crossing routes and be that 8th guy in the box... the difference being Mays runs a 4.3. I've just not been sold that he's a playmaker FS... Berry looks much more like that to me. Weird that he plays SS, but Berry hits like a truck too

Kwame Harris is still out there.

it may be a bad joke, but that is what it is--a JOKE

not good news.

Ronnie, I like the way you make your point about starting a PS guy vs Mathis

In response to Alex Smith (THE BLOGGER) from 2 blogs ago.

Yes my tone on A. Smith has changed. He is no longer the back up and now is the starter so YES I will cheer for him. Because I cheer for the team not the players. ( I dont expect you to understand that concept) Does that mean I think Alex will be or is great? I STILL dont THINK that. But I HOPE he is. Because I want to win. IF I am wrong the team I love will be winning with Alex. That is why I HOPE I am wrong.

To you and all the other Alex Smith supporters. People being wrong about Hill and Smith playing half a game successfully doesn't make you completely right. You may have been right about Hill but that doesnt make Alex the right choice. In the end both sides could end up being wrong and right.

It is completely possible for both of us to be wrong and that both suck and shouldn't be our starter.

But lets see if you eat crow if Alex starts looking worse or as bad as Hill over the next 3-4 games.

Again, I hope that doesnt happen. I hope in 4 weeks or so I can say "you were right Alex is better". But that is the difference between us Hill supporters and you. As someone else said before we support the Jersey on the field. Regardless of our feelings towards the person in that jersey.

You and oneniner and moseszd and some others, you have rooted against Hill from the start. You did not care what jersey he wore you wanted "your guy" in there and forget about anyone in his way. You rooted against Hill and thats what has pissed everyone off.

I guess you dont get that and never will. Because you just cant seem to back the TEAM if the one player on the field is not the one you want to be in there.

well said

I'm hoping along with you.

I hope my pessimism proves to be unfounded.

Wow, bad news indeed.

Agree on the screen play idea. How about some roll-outs. Maybe running draws from a spread formation. There are things an offense can do to mitigate for a weak O line.

What we cannot do is to keep running straight into the line play after play and putting Alex in 3rd and long situations series after series. How about pulling out the old Bill Walsh play where he would have the Right tackle and the right guard both pull to lead a sweep to the left. I know linebackers are much faster now than in 1981, but still as a surprise move this could work.

Raye has nothing to lose. Nobody expects us to win this game. Why not pull out all the stops and throw the proverbial kitchen sink at them.

The problem began with letting Kosier and Smiley walk. MacNolan never valued the guard position, now it has come back to bite them!

Why not at least activate Boone? Staley did a good job as rookie. We might just be surprised.

You had to be encouraged after Sunday. There's a lot more in the playbook than what they showed up to that point.

Brekkon, your sanctimonious rant is laughable. By and large, pro-Hill guys like you have been violently anti-Smith, beyond reason or humanity. Most Smith supporters have simply said they haven't given up on him or his potential, and they don't see much to like in Hill. Now that Smith has shown a glimpse of that potential, you act like Hill supporters have been totally kind towards him and the people who did not think much of Hill are not true fans. Puke. True fans want the best guy out there on the field, not anybody-who-isn't-Smith. True fans don't spend three or four paragraphs quibbling about who might end up being right or wrong, while claiming all the while that everyone could be right and/or wrong, but mainly want a guarantee that if Smith doesn't do well, his supporters will eat crow about it. Worried only about the team? BALONEY.

Hmm, Id still be inclined to activate Boone or even Khalif Mitchel on the Oline as backups for the game. Particularly if Sims, Wragge or Rachal get smoked. Why not let them get some game time. We will soon be at the point where it makes sense to build for next year.

just scanned a google search of Chris Patrick. He played for Nebraska, was on Phillie's PS and then KC's. Worked out recently for the Broncos. At least he's had a few interested in him. Still not enough to give you a warm and fuzzy

At this point, the 9ers first priority is not to win - they can't win with an O line this bad - but to survive to fight another day. They must do all they can to keep A. Smith healthy until the O line can be fixed by an infusion of new talent.

What's wrong with rooting for the Niners whoever is starting. Clearly it is personal to be right that Hill plays better than Smith or vice-versa. The approach the players are taking as friends is the mature one (as pointed out by MM). They each have gotten disappointed over not starting but they approached the change like men and supported each other. They don't hope that the other one does so poorly that they can make it personal so they can say on a blog that they were right. There is nothing wrong with an opinion, but when you hope the QB and team does poorly so you can say you were the one that called it on the blog, is utterly ridiculous.

I wish Smith could have pulled off the win last Sunday. I'd feel a lot better going in to this next game. I don't feel like Hill is responsible for any of our losses but I acknowledge Smith made passes last week that Hill can't make. I hope some of Hill's game management skills have rubbed off on Smith.

I still like my idea of Smith playing the first 3 quarters, building up a lead, and Hill comes in to manage the 4th quarter and avoid the game killing T/O or INT.

Taylor Mays is a monster! He is another Lott, or McDonald! He damaged his knee a few games back and I think this has slowed him up and has required him to wear a knee brace that he isn't fond of! He still hits like a house though!
He'll be the first DB to go in the coming draft! He's a shoe in as an NFL starter! Unless a catastrophe happens to him!

The O line cant suffer any more losses. They are already the weakest link on the team. Due to this, Smtih better be prepared to run for his life on Sunday. This almost the same crappy line he had to deal with in 07. God the OL stinks. Please, PLEASE draft or trade for some OL help within the next twelve months. These guys are so bad, they couldnt guard a CHAIR! At least Smith can run faster...

You and oneniner and moseszd and some others, you have rooted against Hill from the start. You did not care what jersey he wore you wanted "your guy" in there and forget about anyone in his way. You rooted against Hill and thats what has pissed everyone off.
I guess you dont get that and never will. Because you just cant seem to back the TEAM if the one player on the field is not the one you want to be in there........................ Damn straight! If you bag smith your a fraud. When they bashed hill they wre real fans. Lol what a joke.

I apologize for lumping all Alex Smith supporters together in the last post. Not all the smith supporters are who I am referring to. It is those select few that did more than just dislike Hill but also refused to support him the times he did do well. They never once had a positive thing to say about Hill. Those are the ones I was referring to and I wrongfully lumped you all in to one group.

Taylor Mays is a monster! He is another Lott, or McDonald! He damaged his knee a few games back and I think this has slowed him up and has required him to wear a knee brace that he isn't fond of! He still hits like a house though!
He'll be the first DB to go in the coming draft! He's a shoe in as an NFL starter! Unless a catastrophe happens to him!

Pashos wasn't much. Chris Patrick didn't make the Eagles line-up and was released, then picked-up by KC for the practice Alex Boone isn't a good pass protector at this time.

Looks like we are at the dance without a date. Not a good way for Smith to start out vs Mathis & Feeney with 11.5 sacks for the Colts.

Hey skeebars. Try getting on more often. These two idiots he is talking about bashed hill from the get go. Day after day. Whining and hating hill because their precious Alex got beat out. So now that fans on the other side of the coin have their opinion about smith. That's not fair. Most of us on here aren't looking at it as hill vs smith. They both suck a**. but when your dealing with stalker fans like these two. What are you going to say. All they want to do is say I told you so. When smith crumbles like usual. Watch the excuses fly. Know before rarking next time son! Go niners and whoever is playing!

Hey skeebars. Try getting on more often. These two idiots he is talking about bashed hill from the get go. Day after day. Whining and hating hill because their precious Alex got beat out. So now that fans on the other side of the coin have their opinion about smith. That's not fair. Most of us on here aren't looking at it as hill vs smith. They both suck a**. but when your dealing with stalker fans like these two. What are you going to say. All they want to do is say I told you so. When smith crumbles like usual. Watch the excuses fly. Know before rarking next time son! Go niners and whoever is playing!

Terry I have a question for you.

If we can get Nnamdi Asomugha for a shut down Corner and move Nate to safety or even our #2 CB would that be a better move in your eyes?

With those two at CB I dont care who we have at safety they would probably look good.

Matt - any rumors that Briggs was offered a roster spot on another team and his agent gave the 9ers first refusal?

What's with all the Taylor Mays talk? I love the kid, but for our 49ers? Really? Do you guys watch the 49ers play? The last thing I catch myself saying after a game on Sunday’s is: “If we only had this kid from USC…..”
If you do not think this team needs a solid O lineman (or two) and a solid pass rusher you are not paying attention. Good Safetys can be found in rounds 2-4. A stud pass rusher will make our current safetys look like Pro Bowlers. Am I missing something here gents?

I would take trading our first two picks for two solid free agents. One o-line one d-line. I say that because i am sick of waiting for talent to blossom. If there is no cap next year why not? It can't get any worse. Just another idea gents.

Maaaan, what the FUNK is goin on with this O-Line??? Is it cursed? This unit can't catch a freakin' break!

Chilo! If you're reading this, and I KNOW you're reading this, please get your head in the game. It is go time big-fella. Your number is being called. Play smart, please! A.Snyder, you gotta hold that edge down!

Free agents are FREE to sign anywhere. You don't need to trade for them.

Good moves Brek! I still think we need a bone crusher that can punish anything coming over the middle! But your idea meets a lot of needs also! Let's flip a coin, they both are big positives!

Im with you Mike, But I think it comes down to who's available. If Mays is on the board and a stud pass rusher or stud OT is also on the board then Mays takes a back seat, but only if their is another cant miss at those possitions, otherwise we fill the SS need which I believe is also very important since Lewis has had three concusions so far and might not be around much longer. Ninermd- dispite being sick of waiting for talent to blossom, this years draft is deep and we need to take advantage of it.

Hmm....trade a draft pick for a free agent....how exactly would that work? To my understanding, you don't need to trade anything in order to sign a player that isn't under contract

Seriously though, if you're saying that you would rather see the team spend their money/resources on two proven players who will make an immediate impact rather than two unproven rookies, well I think everyone is on board with that. I'd like to think we can do both. I think one of our 1st round picks needs to be on offensive lineman, and I also think we should sign an established veteran Pro Bowl-caliber OL in free agency.

Also, who else is hoping that Casey Hampton won't be re-signed in Pittsburgh? He would be EXACTLY what our defense needs.

Thanks Terry, I like the kid but I just think we have more pressing needs than mays right now. If we can get a starting Right OT for something less than a second rounder from another team I wouldn't mind getting Mays. Or if Smith or Davis step up and show they are the guy for us at QB then I wouldn't consider QB such a pressing 1st round need and thus Mays would be a good choice.

ninermd, Plenty of Offensive Guards will be available as FA next year. No need to wast picks on that position. That may be all we need. Consistent play from the middle will show improvement in our tackles in my opinion. Maybe we need Right OT but there are no studs coming out in FA next year in that position.

I meant one that might be franchised. My bad. Or maybe trade for some guys looking to get the hell out of where their at.

..lol...its really sad...

Ninermd - "I would take trading our first two picks for two solid free agents. "

and yu expect us to think you have any idea of whtz is going on.....

the fact you actually added solid confirms you really believed the statement....

...dude you are insulting us......with yur un-informed brain......

if can't contribute on a high level you should BAN yourself ....plz save us the dis-respect......

example of high level contribution from Mike in SF #2 .....

"If you do not think this team needs a solid O lineman (or two) and a solid pass rusher you are not paying attention."

This safety named Mays will be gone in the 1st round! Book it!

Matt,

Can you please shed some light on why defense has been struggling against tight ends in the past two games? I was reading Erice Davis's wrap up, he wrote: "Two weeks in a row, it was the tight end that took over and made plays against this defense. In my humble opinion, that shouldn’t happen. The 49ers have the linebackers and the secondary with the athletic ability to prevent that from happening. For guys to run clean through that secondary, that means there are communication problems." Can you please ask our coaching staff why a vetern team that have been playing in the same system is suddenly having communication issues to cover probowl TD! Houston was a great example, they kept going to their TE the whole game and we just appeared in the wrong place on the big plays! thank you Matt as always for your excellent coverage of 49ers.

"Smith line up 8 yards back, ALL WRs and TEs run verticals. Release in 3-4 seconds. If nobody is open, check down to RB or throw away. Good luck." Pretty good!

This quote is from Coach Singletary's Monday press conference, as written on 49ers.com. This was the last paragraph:
On using more of a three receiver formation with Alex Smith going forward:
“We’re going to do whatever we need to do win. Three receiver, four receiver, five receiver, I don’t care. We’re going to do whatever we need to do to win. But we’re going to run the ball.”
The Steelers have a much-maligned OL too, so they put Roethlisberger back in the shotgun, which he played in college, to enable quicker reads and help the OL's pass protection. They run from this formation, too. The NFL is a copycat league. I hope that Coach Sing's quote means that he'll consider giving A. Smith the same (familiar from college) shotgun formation and the use of 2-4 quick young WRs at a time, activating Brandon Jones and Jason Hill (play the RIGHT Hill, as 53Niners said). Frank Gore is essential for his running threat and his Pancake pass blocking.
I hope to see combination "pick" routes, not all vertical, and Alex to release the ball in 2-3 seconds.

Honolulules, you are right on! Coach Ray should at least mix up formations and do some motion with VD and Gore to great confusion and take advantage of defense blitzing the QB.

Guess you weren't around for the Montana -Young era.

Same stuff, I remember a female KNBR caller who hoped Young broke a leg or such because she was a Montana fan. The same stupidity still exists.

Matt,

You were superb on Chronicle Live tonight. Papa brings out the best in his guests. Good thing you weren't on with Ratto - he was in a mood last night.

GilroyAl, read my display name - I absolutely was around - difference is there weren't any blogs in the mid to late 80's when the Montana vs Young feud was in full rage. Young turned the tide a bit with "the run" versus the Vikings in 1988. I hated to see Montana (the best QB ever) leave but it was time for Young.

taylor mays is the most overrated player coming out of the draft, period. yes, he'll get drafted in the top 10 (prolly by the raiders) but it will be because of his measurables and his 40 at the combine. I'll take eric berry.

Gotcha, anyway the point is that QB division/loyalty seems to go all the way from the lobby to the penthouse.

Great topics tonight. Just glad I am not in the COHN ZONE!!! I think there are like 3 post there from 2 different guys!

MM, you are doing a great job.

Hi Matt, Steven Jackson ran for 134 yards against the Colts. If they have the lead they can get after the QB as well as anyone. However, they can be run against up the gut. If Frank has a big day we're in the hunt. The Colts get off really fast and then come back to the field as the season progresses. How many Super Bowl rings does Manning have......1. So they don't close the deal and they are do for a let down. As far as the OL, fix it for good in the off season, draft two studs or move up and get a monster.

Terry - I don't doubt that Mayes will be gone in the top 15 of the draft. Maybe even top 10 (I take that back, the SS from Tenn. will go before Mayes). That's not my point. There are much bigger holes this team needs to fill before we go after a guy like Mayes. We don't need him right now when we have huge holes on our OL and we cannot get to the QB. Pass rush and OL have to be our top priorities in this draft. Deja Vu? I think so....

Indy is a speed defense. They need to turn this into a street fight, not spread it out and try win a shootout.

Secondly, can we institute a moratorium on draft talk until at least Thanksgiving. You really make yourself sound like an a** trying to forecast the draft when you don't have any idea about draft position or underclassmen.

Thirdly, what is the basis for the sentiment that Ike Bruce is playing poorly? Unfortunately, I made the decision to watch the games this season in my friendly neighborhood sportsbook so I don't have access to Tivo. Even still you can't watch the wideout route on the TV anyway. So I'm just interested where this opinion is coming from.

Coming out of camp Bruce was easily the best route runner. His hands and blocking where comparable with anybody on the team. His only weakest is speed, but I'm not sure Hill or Jones speed are enough to compensate for his other skills plus savvy.

Matt, during the live chat you criticized a two play sequences as "bad play calls“. What make a play call a poor one? I've never called plays but there are three situation the as a neophyte I'm able to isolate.

1. The play called even if executed to perfectly has no chance to success based on either the offensive or defensive personnel/alignment.

2. Based on the game situation the risk outweighs possible gain.

3. This one enters a gray area, when the look the defense is giving prescribes a play that is not a strength(which is probably why you got the look in the first place)so rather play to your strength, you allow the defense to call the play.

Again these are the criteria that I'm aware of the that would be grounds for criticizing a play call. There is more to it than just, "They went three and out, so fire Coach Raye".

I believe the ratio of responsibility is about 90/10, player/coach. Play calls look great when players execute.

I’d really appreciate your thoughts.

Thanks.

Matt, during the live chat you criticized a two play sequences as "bad play calls“. What make a play call a poor one? I've never called plays but there are three situation the as a neophyte I'm able to isolate.

1. The play called even if executed to perfectly has no chance to success based on either the offensive or defensive personnel/alignment.

2. Based on the game situation the risk outweighs possible gain.

3. This one enters a gray area, when the look the defense is giving prescribes a play that is not a strength(which is probably why you got the look in the first place)so rather play to your strength, you allow the defense to call the play.

Again these are the criteria that I'm aware of the that would be grounds for criticizing a play call. There is more to it than just, "They went three and out, so fire Coach Raye".

I believe the ratio of responsibility is about 90/10, player/coach. Play calls look great when players execute.

I’d really appreciate your thoughts.

Thanks.

How does one turn a game into a street fight. In years past you could cut block D linemen. I don't think that is allowed anymore. Let's face it, NFL circa 2009 is not a league which allows games to be turned into street fights. The Ref's are told to call the games tight and the simplest shove is liable to get a 15 yard penalty.

The term street fight seems another way of describing the Singletary mantra of "we will impose our will" etc etc. If there is one thing we can say definitively after 6 games, it is that this team simply does not have the personnel to "impose their will" on anybody. The way to win with this group is to outsmart your opponent.

I agree with you 100% on the moratorium on draft talk. We have 10 games left in the season. Even if we lose to Indy, it is by no means the end of the season. Let's worry about the draft on Jan 4 (unless we are in the play-offs).

Am I the only guy here not ready to write of Chilo? If so, oh well ,so be it-yes he has played poorly of late but he is is still in his first year's sum of play .Not everyone comes out of the gate at full speed -the learning curb varies individually -so we may have to suffer his rookie mistakes and develop patience as difficult as that may be for we fans.I too am curious about Boone's development but that consideration may not come into play unless there is another OL injury.I'm hopeful we catch the Colts unawares with a new look O.I'm not predicting anything, but a good showing by our O might make this a closer game than the spread indicates.Coach Raye needs to call an inspired game as our defense will be challenged as we know.GO NIners!

True genius comments from last week:
ninermd replied to comment from Fathead | October 19, 2009 8:20 AM | Reply
While YOU sit there in YOUR monday morning arm chair playing Mr Knowitall. Once again Smith panty wearers. IF YOU CANT EVEN THROW A 10 YARD PASS ACCURATLY YOU ARE A BUST! If you cant see that the #1 draft pick 4 years ago isnt even on the field theres a reason for that. HE IS A BUST. And I dont give a crap if he will be a good qb somewhere else. If he does ever become a good qb somewhere else, you and other 9er bashers should pack up and go with him. THIS COMMENT WAS MADE BY A REAL 49ER FAN THAT ISNT BLINDLY IN LOVE WITH A BUST. ON HIS COUCH ENJOYING HIS DAY OFF.

HI! its my first time posting and just want to say that I like reading your post because I find them very informative because a lot of you guys have great football knowledge. I agree with most of you on that we need to use next years 1st round pick on the OL. Also, I have not heard much of you guys talking about Diyral Briggs who was promoted to the 53 man roster. I know he was a good pass rusher in college and he started to show something in preseason and I believe that if he is giving the chance to play he can be a good asset to the defense. What do you guys think?

Fathead, LOL. That's our boy. A real deep thinker.

More genius talk from last week:

Brekkon replied to comment from Fathead | October 19, 2009 11:49 AM | Reply
Fathead: Actually its not that people are ignoring me its that people who DO NOT believe smith is the answer don't see a reason to answer the question and those that are supporting Smith CANT answer the question so therefore you try to make it sound as if people are ignoring me...? What a joke.

Skeebers tried to say the competition was tied in the preseason and by default went to Hill. That was not the case as I will explain below.

Skeebers you are mistaken.
Remember Matts post here where he said
"In my opinion, Hill is starting to inch ahead in the quarterback competition. Perhaps, I'm even downplaying it. Hill might actually be taking a commanding lead based on how he seems more at ease in unfamiliar, unscripted activities - such as these practices against the Raiders."

Then he posted this just before Hill was named starter:
" --The general perception is that Shaun Hill might have made a move to separate himself from Alex Smith in the quarterback competition. Singletary, of course, is not going to name a "leader" until he names a starter at some point in the future."

He also posted this just before Hill was anounced the starter. Just after the Raiders preseason.
"Although it was not particularly impressive (for either QB), Hill remained on solid ground to win the starting job for the regular season."

Then he also reported when Hill was announced the starter:
"Hill has beaten out Alex Smith for the starting job, coach Mike Singletary announced just moments ago"

Yes he said Hill had BEATEN out A. Smith, not tied him.
AND Matt also reported:
"But Hill took began to take a sizable lead in the competition with his play Tuesday and Wednesday against the Raiders during the four joint practices, team sources said. "

Disclaimer: I do not think Hill is some amazing talent. I wish we had a better QB as our starter. Hill is average, a back up. I just think he is a stop gap until we can get a good-great QB. Smith is not the answer either, if he was a good or even great QB he would have had ZERO issues beating out a supposedly weaker QB for the starting role.

Smith is as weak or weaker than Hill.

Hightop, you're not alone. Rachal will be fine in time. This is about his 10th game as a starter (4 last year, IIRC). Tough to learn under fire each week, but he'll be a good one down the road.

Agree with you about Rachal, and agreed with you last week while Brokeback was sounding off.

Thanks for the reply-yes tough to learn under fire and with a team still building but I think the young man will prove to be worthy and capable of withstanding the gauntlet.A more dynamic attack in the air will throw opposing defenses toward the back of their feet and that may help-along with some tough love schooling on how to handle the blitz moves that seem so problematic for him.

It would be a mistake to abandon the philosophy of pounding the ball at this point. You finally have the ability to take advantage of teams crowding the line of scrimmage by throwing the ball over the top. Which loosen up the defense and allows you to pound the ball. The message since training camp has been this is going to be a physical tough minded team, not a friendly finesse one. Featuring Frank and taking advantage of 8 and 9 man fronts in the passing game gives this team the best chance to win. Martz was let go because on 4 and 1 Coach Sing wants to two tight/two backs and mash it down your throat. Not go empty five wide.

It would be a mistake to abandon the philosophy of pounding the ball at this point. You finally have the ability to take advantage of teams crowding the line of scrimmage by throwing the ball over the top. Which loosen up the defense and allows you to pound the ball. The message since training camp has been this is going to be a physical tough minded team, not a friendly finesse one. Featuring Frank and taking advantage of 8 and 9 man fronts in the passing game gives this team the best chance to win. Martz was let go because on 4 and 1 Coach Sing wants to two tight/two backs and mash it down your throat. Not go empty five wide.

Call Harvey Dahl he'll explain how to turn the line game into a street fight, he does it weekly.

Mike! Geez! After reading your take on our situation my head began to spin! You're right! We've got quite a few problems and even one or two draft choices might not be enough help! The injuries to the OL, plus it's pathetic play makes one think we need at least 2 top OL in the coming draft!
My problem is I'm leery of the draft, especially the supposed top picks when it comes to OL! So many don't pan out!
Pass rush is definetly a need as you write! But this area of the draft too has a lot of failures when they get in the NFL!
Unfortunately, I knew we had some problems entering the season, but not this many! I just wonder if we have the people in the know to make the right choices?
Crabtree seems to be the real thing right now! But we won't know until the season progresses!
But next year can't be the best guy available again! It has to be pinpoint accuracy at certain position needs! Both offense and defense!

A weak O Line gets weaker.. This is NOT a good thing going up against the fastest pass rush ( NY Giants maybe faster) in the NFL on a the fastest field in the NFL..
Alex Smith had better be on the move.

Raye better dial up max pro every pass play.
Keep a back and TE in..
chip Freeny. hold him.
steal his car keys so he can't drive to the yard..
Go Conrad Dobler on him..
GET MEAN O LINE GET FREEKIN MEAN.

For all those talking about who to draft:

Draft for the trenches -- OL and DL. If you build it, etc....

Without controlling the line of scrimmage... fogettaboutit

What the hell is the matter with you? Are you the freaken opinion police? Are you auditioning for a sports talk show host position?

Dude . . . just get over yourself already.

Fathead,

I had a legitimate question for Alex supporters last week and you tried to attack me by claiming people were ignoring me. You have used this argument before to try and shut peoples opinions down so let me use it against you....

What do you have some inside information that people were ignoring me? Are you in touch with everyone on the blog and they all somehow contacted you and told you they were ignoring me? What skills do you have to know what everyone is thinking? Are you a precognition? If so prove it to me.

Just because I responded back to your attack, you put me on your vendetta list. Now you are targeting me and anyone else who was critical of one of your replies.

You have yet to contribute one iota of relevant insight. All you do is criticize others views. You put down others ideas. All it takes is for someone to go back and read YOUR posts to see this.

Its all good because now everyone knows the truth about your character.....you have none.

Fathead replied to comment from Skeebers | October 27, 2009 8:48 PM | Reply

"Agree with you about Rachal, and agreed with you last week while Brokeback was sounding off."

...............................

Really Fathead? You agree with Skeebers? Chilo will improve he just needs time? Well I am going to borrow almost verbatim and change the player referenced from your a couple of your posts to question your view.
.............................

And you know [Chilo will become better], because of all your years of experience playing the game, right?

Bottom line, ...nobody knows whether [Chilo] will become a good player or a bust. You can't know NOW....To claim that you know the answers already means that you think your experience sitting on your couch [makes you an expert].
.................................

See this is what you do! You question peoples opinions by saying, "your wrong because your not an expert?" But the same rules dont apply for you?!?!

You are a hypocrite.

As for Rachal being a potential bust... I just think rachal and heitman need to spend more time together because it looks like heitmann is always helping out baas for some reason, leaving rachal 1v1 against a dt or LB inevitably giving up that inside move for a sack on hill... seriously, if you KNOW your RG is having problems you need to HELP HIM HEITMAN!

like in the Rams game, I know we blew them out but there was this one play they showed on replay, rachal picked up his guy, but the guy slipped to the inside and got hill for a sack... you know what heitman was doing? he was looking left the WHOLE time and didn't pick up ANYONE! it doesn't take a brain surgeon to know rachal is raw, you need to be looking his way alot more...

In the words of MNF C'mon man!

Matt this Chris Patrick looks more like an OG?

6'4" 280? Interesting choice if it happens?

Glad to see that we have a hook for others' PS Players and took the chance to pull Briggs into the Active Roster too.

I think it's time to play into Alex's Spread Offense instincts a little also. Spreading things out helps the OL and the running game. Indy can be had, but

Peyton is a surgeon. Our secondary is the patient.

We need some creative packages on both sides of the ball.

Ha sometimes the great ones have brainfarts. That's cool, but I meant franchise tagged free agents. Why are you talking ? You couldn't answer how many years your crush Alex has been In the league. Trust young buck I know a hell of a lot about football than you. And the rest of you bums. Better not ever make a mistake on here either. Cuz I'll be on ya. Have a great day gents.

Surrounded by Indy fans. Need this win to silence the pony noise.

With all due respect, teams are not crowding the line, they are stopping our running game with 6 or 7 man fronts. Please go back and watch a tape of the Atlanta and Houston games if you don't believe me.

Just because Singletary wants a tough minded physical team, does not mean that is what we are now. Maybe in a couple of years but not now. Our O line is simply not blowing people back at all at the point of attack.

Someone should remind Singletary of Albert Einstein's definition of insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

Trading two picks for two provens isn't a bad idea. Two free agents that could be tagged is what I meant last time I'm going to explain that. I'm tired of mcclueless picking our o-line. If we can two proven players from a tagged situation that would work. Anyone looking to get out of the bad situation their in are more likely to take a good not money sucking deal. I want to win now. And for being the president of the Alex smith club you couldn't even answer his age. Mistakes happen. I'll take the heat. And when your boy shows his real colors. You better be on taking yours. Because I just want to say I told you so.

True genius comments from last week:
ninermd replied to comment from Fathead | October 19, 2009 8:20 AM | Reply
While YOU sit there in YOUR monday morning arm chair playing Mr Knowitall. Once again Smith panty wearers. IF YOU CANT EVEN THROW A 10 YARD PASS ACCURATLY YOU ARE A BUST! If you cant see that the #1 draft pick 4 years ago isnt even on the field theres a reason for that. HE IS A BUST. And I dont give a crap if he will be a good qb somewhere else. If he does ever become a good qb somewhere else, you and other 9er bashers should pack up and go with him. THIS COMMENT WAS MADE BY A REAL 49ER FAN THAT ISNT BLINDLY IN LOVE WITH A BUST. ON HIS COUCH ENJOYING HIS DAY OFF.
............................... Wow fathead. Didn't know I hurt your feelings that bad buddy. You've been holding on to this one for a WEEK. Shake it off buddy. It will be alright.

Fathead replied to comment from Skeebers | October 27, 2009 8:48 PM | Reply
Agree with you about Rachal, and agreed with you last week while Brokeback was sounding off.
..................... Sounds like two guys snuggled up together in their Monday morning arm chair. Playing general manager. Sorry guys I voted yes on 8.

"I know a hell of a lot about football than you."

LOL. Riight. Then perhaps you can explain how we get 2 proven tagged players for 2 of our picks? A Franchised player requires us to surrender 2 number one picks to get ONE player. One of the reasons it's rarely done. And that ONE player is looking for BIG bucks, not "a good not money sucking deal." Are you trying to entertain us? Or are you just, you know, really, really, really ....

why r u wasting your time on ingnoranus....

he his insulting the blog with his lack of knowledge...

Good question you asked - "explain how we get 2 proven tagged players for 2 of our picks?"

he has no clue what is going on - he his a waste of oxygen...

Cut blocking is definitely still allowed and used extensively throughout almost every level of football. In fact, Alex Gibbs makes over a $1MM per year to teach a scheme called Cut-Zone. The chop block was outlawed. A chop block is where a d-linemen is engaged high and another O-lineman takes out his legs.

Skeebers: You are correct that to aquire a Franchised player another team must give up 2 #1 picks to his current team to get him ,that is the League rule BUT...It is often done in a trade to bypass that League rule. In that case it usually takes FAR less that 2 #1's to get that Franchised player.But only if the players current team doesn't think they will be able to sign that player long term or if they don't really have plans long term for that player.
So,we COULD probably get a couple of top tier established players for far less than 4#1 picks,but it would take a huge truck load of cash to get those players to commit to long term deals and some valuable picks to break them away from their current teams. I doubt that blowing up the salary cap like that and giving away a couple of high draft picks is the way we will handle things.
But I would not be shocked if we do make one trade with one of the #1 picks next year to get a starter long term for the D line or even the O line.But it would have to be a pretty young established player ,not just a guy who would be here for a few years and then retire.
But in general ,building through the draft is the way to go.

Here we go again - this guy has no shame.....he his trying hard to gain sum credibility

as if we don't know what a chop block is?......please tell us coach houston...

..tell us about the pork chop you had for breakfast

tell us how much a bust A.Smith is......tell us how much of nothing you know....

"The cut block occurs when a player (usually an offensive lineman) blocks another (usually a defensive lineman) below the knees with his helmet in front of the player. The chop block occurs when the same block comes from the side or the back, or when the defensive player is engaged with another offensive player and therefore defenseless."

Once again you are WRONG......do us a favor and think before you write...

"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge".

...Another troll with no credibility......

"But in general ,building through the draft is the way to go."

- this is the same loof that suggested we should cut a 1st round pick after playing 2 seasons....

"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge".

Alex had better be a different QB than he was in the past(when healthy),because he was pretty bad in every game he ever played in,until last Sunday.His best in the past was below average,that is for sure.
BUT he WAS a different QB last Sunday and if he can keep that up he might have a chance to compete with Nate Davis for the starters job ,maybe.
Of course the Texans had a 21 point lead and played soft (even alex commented on that being the case). But at least Alex was actually throwing the ball on time and on target for the first time in his NFL career,so he showed me something we had never seen from him before . We will see if the new Alex (we have seen for only one 1/2) or the old alex (who played and stunk up the field for over 30 games),shows up against Indy and into the future. The jury is out BUT then before last week all logical fans thought that the jury had sent Alex to oblivion a long time ago,so the jury being out is a HUGE step up for alex! GO ALEX and GO Niners ! (all 53 Niiners ! ).

oneniner replied to comment from TOP_CAT | October 28, 2009 7:25 AM | Reply
...Another troll with no credibility......
"But in general ,building through the draft is the way to go."
- this is the same loof that suggested we should cut a 1st round pick after playing 2 seasons....
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge".
....................... And man you are Houdini!

Ninermd: Who is Oneniner ? wasn't he that Troll who used to sometimes spout his total nonsense on this site,before he was banned for being so hatefull towards so many other posters ? I miss that guy,he was funny,when he wasn't so pathetic.(but he was pathetic 99% of the time,lol ).

If you knew what it was why did you have to do a google search and then copy the exact quote from the 2004 Roger Mills article?

http://www.sptimes.com/2004/10/31/Sports/Stop_the_chop_Broncos.shtml

At least give the writer some credit when you plagiarize. Quotation marks aren't enough.

The article you quoted because you didn't know what a cut vs chop block was is technically correct. However, when you speak to most people they will tell you the more prevalent (and the more concerning) form of chop blocking is one in which a d-linemen is engaged high and then hit low by another lineman. Although illegal you will almost never see a penalty for a "chop" block from the side or behind even though it happens many times per game throughout the NFL. You will always see the penalty called when 2 linemen go high/low on a defender.

lol....good try.....you should be more ashamed of your lack of brain

next time pay attention.....I had the paragraph in " " - that means quotes....lol

and i never said it was my quote....again the quotation marks should have informed you i was quoting someone but unfortunately your pea sized brain couldn't retain the obvious....

Trust me dude - you are trying to hard to regain your non-existing credibility.....

Try re-reading my post. Here's what I said...

"At least give the writer some credit when you plagiarize. Quotation marks aren't enough."

Give Mr. Mills his credit for educating you. I don't really want the credit for explaining basic football to you as you're entertaining posts are payment enough.

FYI . the reason there is a REPLY link - is why there is no need to copy a person's comment over again...

your brain works like that of a mice - it keeps going round and round a maze....

I guess since your BFF is Top_cat, i guess you must be the Bottom_cat....

You guys are confusing me ...Who is Oneniner ? wasn't he that Troll who used to sometimes spout his total nonsense on this site,before he was banned for being so hatefull towards so many other posters ? I miss that guy,he was funny,when he wasn't so pathetic.(but he was pathetic 99% of the time,lol ).
I have not read a OneNiner post for about 2 months,is he still posting on this site ???

You guys are confusing me ...Who is Oneniner ? wasn't he that Troll who used to sometimes spout his total nonsense on this site,before he was banned for being so hatefull towards so many other posters ? I miss that guy,he was funny,when he wasn't so pathetic.(but he was pathetic 99% of the time,lol ).
I have not read a OneNiner post for about 2 months,is he still posting on this site ???

lol....dude....i want to say i respect your courage to stand in there, take the fire and still look like a loof.....but once a loof always a loof....

give credit for what?.....lol...do you even know the defination of plagiarize is ? or did you learn that from fox news and your wing nuts...

in all fairness, you are uneducated...and keep digging yourself in a donkey hole...

...unlike you smart people understand what quotation marks are for.....because they can think...

i am actually not suprised you couldn't figure it out...i mean you are the same person that thinks fox news is fair and balanced......or death panels actually exist....

oh wait....i did recall you saying America is now a socialist country....ha ha ha

and still you can't define what socialism is....just like you can't define plagiarize...

cmon- you really think anyone is taking you seriously...cmon dude...you are not even a real fraud, but a wannabe fraud......lol

"Quotation marks aren't enough." - Yes you are right- not enough for a pea sized brain to understand.....

Lets also keep in mind the TE is a QB's best friend, and as the Gate points out, the Texans refused to cover Vernon with any safety or DB at all, they kept a LB on him, which is why every TD he had Sunday there was a LB tailing after him. Atlanta shut Vernon down with the safety. It will be interesting to see if Indy leaves him open and how Smith adjusts if they cover Vernon well. Then he will have to start looking for a WR to go to, and if he can't immediately find one, that's where he struggles, that's where the old Alex could come out, where he needed 8 seconds to throw downfield. In this case, Freeney will be a happy man Sunday. Let's hope this wasn't just a case of Vernon providing false hope.

Also interesting is how Raye plays this. If he continues on with the "spread" which Smith obviously is more comfortable in, or if he changes back to 2 wide sets and running Gore into a brick wall for one yard gains.

Is that the best you've got? I'm kinda disappointed. Going after the Reply link? Cmon, attack me for being wrong about cut v chop or at least something on the blocking topic. The Reply Link... Really? The brain of a mice... Really? (Just an fyi - that should be brain of a mouse since the word "a" indicates singular). Not even a geographic reference to feign superiority? You've lost your edge man.

Chicago49er - We have been outstanding against Tight Ends before last Sunday in Houston. MM responded to a similar question on Twitter with this:

"Before Daniels, TEs vs. SF had 0, 46, 22, 17, 55 yds w/ 0 TDs"

Over that 5 game stretch I would argue that is best in the NFL. Owen Daniels got loose against us, but I don't think it will be a trend based on the above numbers. This goes back to what Coach Sing was saying about communication issues in the Defense. Too many guys were callling audibles.

Expect them to keep the tight ends covering the tackles, I don't see how else they can protect the QB from Feeney & Mathis(total 11.5 sacks so far) never-mind the inside rush through Rachal.

Take your down-field chances, but above all keep the ball away from Manning as much as possible trying to play ground control. I don't have much expectation we can beat them at their home with the crowd noise.

Honestly I would like Matt to examine how we got to the situation? When was the last time we had an All-Pro Linemen? Coach wanted to play smash mouth football but did he & McCloughlan over value the O LIne personnel? We must address this weakness at the heart of the Niners. We are ranked 32th in the run & 31th in the pass with Pro Football Outsiders Statistics with the Highest adjusted sack percentage per throw!.

Looking ahead I can easily see us 8-8 / 9-7, but the Cards scheule is lightening up and they can be 10-6 / 12-4

Now thats much better. Still not one of your best but better than your first response to my reply.

I find it very interesting how you divert the conversation from blocking or any football related discussion to personal attacks and Fox News. I'll bet your therapist has volumes ready to be published.

Can we discuss football now? Do we need to go on and on about your thievery and lack of knowledge?

I agree Marco. Here is the toughest one: Who do we want to win between Arizona and Carolina this weekend? This may be the 1 week I need Carolina to win. If AZ wins and we have trouble in Indy, we are suddenly two games down in the division with a good chance to make up one of those with our home game against AZ on Monday Night Football. That game should be GOOD and may decide the NFC West. There is a lot of football left, but right now AZ controls their own destiny, even more so if they can get a two game lead this weekend.

Per twitter:

49ers beat reporter injury report for Wednesday: Maiocco (illness) is out.

Feel better MM...before some of us start going through Niner-info withdrawls.

hope its not H1N1....

What's kind of car does Maiocco drive?

Houston 9er, TOP_CAT, ninermd......this is for you from someone that knows what is going on.....do us a favor just shhhh and read....

"Smith's first start came against Freeney and the Colts in 2005. Asked what he remembered about Smith in that 28-3 Indy win, Freeney laughed. "Well, we kind of harassed him pretty well. But he hung in there. He hung in there. I think he's a guy that's not afraid to get hit, a guy who isn't afraid to step in there and make that throw knowing there's going to pressure in his face. I think that's a good trait to have. He has good poise in the pocket."

No Houston.. He doesn't only watch fox to get his knowledge. He plays madden. I would bet that's where he gets his defensive and offensive ideas. I bet he's got a knockoff madden that has Alex smith rated as a top qb. Because I don't know what this bum see's in smith. Oneniner you know nothing about football. Stick to your fantasy league. Where you a bottom feeder with Alex smith as your franchise qb. Your name says it all. You only care about 1 niner. Can't wait to hear the excuses when your hero bombs again.

Now he has his little brother on here named Alex smith. Using their mommys computers. One on the home pc and one on the office pc. Stinking up this website. I would bet they are just like those two nerd brothers on 16 candles. They are strictly fantasy players.

Now he has his little brother on here named Alex smith. Using their mommys computers. One on the home pc and one on the office pc. Stinking up this website. I would bet they are just like those two nerd brothers on 16 candles. They are strictly fantasy players.

I should think that if you possessed even the smallest amount of awareness, the fact you have been nothing but horribly, stupidly wrong about YOUR observations over the time you've posted here... You might just shut up.

Of course, as I learned on the 49ers board, masively-wrong, yet authortativly delivered opinions from ignorant posters seem to rule message boards. Heaven help you actually think and analyze... And, perhaps, actually have some skills in understanding football...

You know, having subtle opinions and actually understanding the ups-and-downs of players and describing them in context... No sir, Bob! Then you're just making "Alexcuses" or defending CLEAR BUSTS like Vernon Davis (who was never a bust despite your, and those haters like you, silly opinions).

But no, get some third rate back-up QB like JT O'Sullivan or Shaun Hill out there... You guys were on their nobs like flies on ****. But actually look at Smith (or Davis) rationally or fairly... Never did you once. It was hate from the day they were both drafted. Every day, every week because you guys think football is effing Madden and everyone comes in from college, like Peyton Manning, and lights it up.

Well, that's not the way it works. In the old days, they used to develop QBs for three years before they started them. Rare did a rookie play. Especially one that came from a junk offense.

But show a little patience, never mind have even the slightest insite or understanding of football... Ha! My mother knows more about football than you. She actually understands the system dynamics of football.

Anyway, things to do. Places to go. But know that I'm laughing at you and Top_Cat. Exposed for the posers you always were.

Yeah especially when he gets in trouble and does the old run right and throws low, hi, behind, or out of bounds. Yeah good ol happy feet looks great in the pocket lol. Maybe when I get off work. I'll roll on home fire up the laptop and research some negative things said about your boy. Ahh who am I kidding that would be another 8 hours of my day. And really that's what he has to say. He's not going to say anything bad about the kid. If that comment doesn't sound like a pitty comment, I don't know what does.

A man admits his mistakes and learns from them. A boy, having been shown to be horribly wrong, just calls people names and remains a foolish, ignoramous his entire life.

Lol..."You guys were on their nobs like flies on ****"....funny....ninermd is a donkey....

....but seriously ninermd, Houston and top_cat...is the reason why i support abortion....

NFL.com is sooooo slow...

Anyone knows if V.Davis is nominated for offensive player of the week?....

7 catches 93 yards 3 touchdowns and also delivered on a promise to Joseph Luna, a 13-year-old leukemia patient....

NFL.com is sooooo slow...

Anyone knows if V.Davis is nominated for offensive player of the week?....

7 catches 93 yards 3 touchdowns and also delivered on a promise to Joseph Luna, a 13-year-old leukemia patient....

onewhiner is why we recommend neutering.

Ninermd:
No matter how pathetic Alex has always been in the past,we must now cheer for him to always be what we saw him be last sundayagainst that prevent defense. Because WE are cheering for all 53 Niners and for our great HC and GM and owner etc.
We are true 49ers fans and any player who goes onto the field wearing a Niners uniform is who we cheer for. Right now we need to hope that alex becomes a great QB and never regresses back to what he had always been before last Sunday. We should all want him to become a Pro Bowl QB and the MVP of the SB !!!
Of course most of us recognize that Nate Davis or perhaps even another QB that we draft etc will be the future starter,but right now Alex is the best chance we have to win,as Sing said. Hill was much better than the old alex,until Hill got gun shy and started only looking at the swarm of pass rushers instead of keeping his focus on the receivers downfield. Hill became like the alex we knew and gave up on,only without the arm strength. So,now we had better hope that alex can continue on and get better every week,because Nate Davis is not ready yet and Hill is now gun shy and beaten down .
GO ALEX and GO NINERS !!! And of course that is the difference between you and I and all the rest of the real fans, and the others who only cheer for ONE Niner(Alex) , we cheer for all 53 Niners and just want wins ! We don't base our whole lives on one guy being adored,we want all the Niners to be great. But we are realistic and can face the truth ,even if some of the Niners players don't play well (as has always been the case with a few of them,like alex and Roman and sims etc).

Alex Smith is the starter... end of story.

Shaun Hill is the backup. If Alex gets hurt, or wets the bed again... guess who the starter is again?

I personally hope Alex does well- then we get production from our receivers, which means our run game opens up (hopefully) which then means we might actually make the playoffs and then we don't have to waste a high draft pick on a QB and can address other areas in the draft.

I am sure we can all agree that is the best case scenario???

Or do you guys just prefer to sling insults at each other?

its a sloooow neeews day.......i just saw this and thought it would be nice to share and educate some of the wing-nuts on here......cuz i know Fox news is not going to show you this...

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=699450566&ref=name#/video/video.php?v=247900850555&ref=nf

enjoy.....

its a sloooow neeews day.......i just saw this and thought it would be nice to share and educate some of the wing-nuts on here......cuz i know Fox news is not going to show you this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=826tpNNrCF0

its a sloooow neeews day.......i just saw this and thought it would be nice to share and educate some of the wing-nuts on here......cuz i know Fox news is not going to show you this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=826tpNNrCF0

MosesZD replied to comment from ninermd | October 28, 2009 10:13 AM | Reply
A man admits his mistakes and learns from them. A boy, having been shown to be horribly wrong, just calls people names and remains a foolish, ignoramous his entire life.

oneniner replied to comment from MosesZD | October 28, 2009 10:22 AM | Reply
Lol..."You guys were on their nobs like flies on ****"....funny....ninermd is a donkey....

....but seriously ninermd, Houston and top_cat...is the reason why i support abortion....

Funny, funny stuff. Way to take the thread completely off topic and onto your favorite one.

We need some serious help for/from our O-line in this next game. Pashos hadn't made a huge impact yet, and now he's gone. Back to Rachal, who is either a bust or hasn't quite learned his position yet, depending on who you listen to. Either way, he's not much help. Max pro seems to be the only way we're going to be able to do anything behind the line.

..ok back to football.....wz up with my main man Boooone....

how come he his not getting reps.....he did attend and started at Ohio State?

is he that bad?

TOP_CAT, you are making a fool out of yourself with these silly posts. And when you need to ally yourself with trolls like Ninermd, who know nothing about football and exist on blog sites only to pick out enemies to harass endlessly with juvenile drivel, you forsake any pretense at credibility. Perhaps this is because Smith's performance on Sunday shattered any pretense that existed in the first place. Also, when you keep assuming everyone on the site agrees with you and thinks like you because you are Mr. Perfect Superfan, then you are being a complete and insulting jacka**. Obviously, you are melting down in public over the thorough humiliation inflicted on your ego by Smith's performance, rather than being excited for the team as you hypocritically profess is your top priority.

Smith vs Hill - A great look inside the numbers:

"In his 24 drop backs in the second half, Alex Smith had a smidgen less time that Shaun Hill in the pocket, averaging 2.73 seconds than Hill's 2.8 in the first half. Smith, unlike Hill, wasn't sacked. Smith also threw only two bad passes in his 23 attempts (counting his 22-yarder to Michael Crabtree that was negated by a procedure call on Josh Morgan), while Hill threw four poor passes in 11 first-half attempts. Smith was hit three times in 25 drop backs, Hill was hit four times in 13 drop backs.

Can Alex Smith revive the offense?

The big difference there was Smith's ability to throw right when he hit the back foot, also Smith is more adept at throwing the ball away, sometimes too adept. When he played every snap in 2006, he threw more balls away than any other quarterback that season. But against Houston, his ability to move around and then possess the arm strength to hurl the ball to the line of scrimmage to avoid intentional grounding, bailed him out twice."

Skeebers: Would you care to elaborate on what I said that got you so upset,you were not very specific.
And I just backed up Ninermd on a thing or two that he or she was correct on,I did not ally myself to him or her for life,lol.
As a matter of fact I just wrote an entire post that called Ninermd to task for hating on our new starting QB.I said that we,as real fans ,should cheer for alex to be great. If Ninermd does not take that advice,then imho he/she is not a true fan of the team but a hater of alex smith.
But still ,we do have the right to critique the performance of the players,and if alex stinks up the place then Ninermd or anyone has the right to call it as they see it. But id they won't give credit to alex ,where credit is due,then they are not real fans but just haters.
Anyway,If you have a gripe with my opinions,then please be specific and I will try to explain.If you have a valid point then I will certainly change my opinion accordingly.

And of course you are very wrong about what I hope for Alex smith. I am not in the least melting down but am in reality hoping that what we finally saw from alex in that 1/2 of play was what we can expect from him from now on,and hope that he does not regress.
I hope alex goes to the Pro Bowl and wins the SB MVP !!!
So,when you are correct imho I will agree with you,as I often have done. And if you are unfair about something like I thought you were about the trade talk between you and Ninermd,then I will throw in my 2 cents worth to give my point of view on the issue.

...But I guess you just got up on the wrong side of the bed today. I have no gripe with you in general and I hope you feel the same about me.
I certainly don't know everything and often learn from you and others,but don't agree or dissagree with anyone all the time .

Good info Mike in SF #2. I hope Smith stays true to those stats. If so we are in for a treat.

Hopefully they were not padded stats based on the prevent defense he was playing against. I am not sure that they were because a prevent defense usually doesnt give you less time in the pocket to throw.

The good thing I see from all this is we should know how good or bad Smith is by the end of the year. Hill will most likely be gone to make room for someone else. Will Smith leave a spot open too? We will see.

Good info Mike in SF #2. I hope Smith stays true to those stats. If so we are in for a treat.

Hopefully they were not padded stats based on the prevent defense he was playing against. I am not sure that they were because a prevent defense usually doesnt give you less time in the pocket to throw.

The good thing I see from all this is we should know how good or bad Smith is by the end of the year. Hill will most likely be gone to make room for someone else. Will Smith leave a spot open too? We will see.

Brekkon:
We know that the Niners were looking for a replacement for Hill and Smith during the off season.They tried to get Warner and then Drafted Nate Davis to be that guy in the future.
I believe that if alex can show some of what we saw last week ,consistently,then he will stay and Hill will go (because his upside is not as good because of his arm strength). So,next year in camp it would be Smith coming in as the imcumbant and Davis competing with him in camp to see who starts the season,with a QB drafted in a later round as the 3rd string prospect (or maybe a veteran free agent,who knows).
I thought that Hill would turn out to be the backup to Davis ,long term,but if Smith is finally going to have the light come on for him,he now has a huge advantage over Hill for the long term,because of his arm and his possible upside.
But I still think and hope Davis is the real deal. If he is not then I hope Alex is better than I can even hope,either that or we need another franchise guy from the draft or free agency.
We will find out a lot about alex this season now that he is playing,I wish there was some way to put Davis to the test too,so we would KNOW exactly what we have before the next draft.
But as I said,I thinkDavis has it all,but is of course unproven in the NFL,and there are no guarantees.

We may find ourselves two games back. What I really want is improvement this season to know we are heading in the right direction by finishing above .500. We must get our QB situation sorted out and handle the O Line. There are still 10 games left and who knows what will happen?

MosesZD replied to comment from ninermd | October 28, 2009 10:13 AM | Reply
A man admits his mistakes and learns from them. A boy, having been shown to be horribly wrong, just calls people names and remains a foolish, ignoramous his entire life.

oneniner replied to comment from MosesZD | October 28, 2009 10:22 AM | Reply
Lol..."You guys were on their nobs like flies on ****"....funny....ninermd is a donkey....

....but seriously ninermd, Houston and top_cat...is the reason why i support abortion....

Funny, funny stuff. Way to take the thread completely off topic and onto your favorite one.

We need some serious help for/from our O-line in this next game. Pashos hadn't made a huge impact yet, and now he's gone. Back to Rachal, who is either a bust or hasn't quite learned his position yet, depending on who you listen to. Either way, he's not much help. Max pro seems to be the only way we're going to be able to do anything behind the line.

Weird, I posted this reply yesterday, left my computer, came back to work today, hit back to go to the thread and it reposted. Love the glitches on the site.

I hate to think this, but I believe we'll run into the same problems with Alex that we ran into with Hill. Other teams will build up some film on them and exploit their weaknesses. The reason teams can't do this on Peyton or Drew is that they have so many different things they can do that you can't plan for them all. I don't think Alex has the experience to be able to do that yet. And for all the trolls out there, no I'm not a hater, I want the best for our team, I'm just not looking through rose colored glasses.