We have been over it. All of it. There is glue on your shoes.

Hi Lowell

Learn to forgive. You will be a much happier man.

Football is MV's livelyhood.

Learn forgiveness Lowell

Get over it, Lowell.

Singletary won't publicly diss Vick because as part of his Christian faith he believes in forgiveness. He won't outright condemn Vick. You are working yourself up over nothing.

Right now Vick is Atlanta's property. He'll probably get an additional ban from the NFL for the year. Next year either Smith or Hill will be fixed as the Niners' starter or they'll be picking up one of the guys in the draft with their two #1s. The chance that Vick will end up on the Niners' squad is zilch, if that's what you're worried about.

If you're worried about Vick playing in the NFL in the future, worry about the guys who beat up their wives and girlfriends, the guys who assault others and the guys who kill people.

Lowell,
If Leonard Little is allowed to play football after this (from Wikipedia)..."After leaving a birthday party drunk in 1998, Little crashed into and killed Susan Gutweiler in St. Louis, MO. When tested, his blood alcohol level measured 0.19 percent, a level that exceeds the statutory level of intoxication of 0.08 in the state of Missouri. Little received 90 days in jail, four years probation and 1000 hours of community service. He was inactive for four games before being placed on the non-football injury list due to legal issues surrounding his drunk driving accident. The NFL suspended Little for 8 games of the 1999 season. The suspension cost Little $125,000, half his seasonal salary. The following season he returned to the Rams at mid-season and performed mostly on special teams with a season-high four special teams tackles vs. New York Giants 12/19/1999." Two years later, he signed a 17.5M contract after contributing greatly to the Rams winning the Super Bowl. Little got drunk, got behind the wheel, and killed a woman. Vick did a despicable thing no doubt, and has paid his debt to society. But how seriously warped are we to have this outrage over Vick while Leonard Little jerseys still sell in St. Louis? If you want to keep Vick out, then you should be leading the crusade with MADD to kick Little out.

I think Maiocco screwed up. His headline implies that Singletary said, "We haven't closed the door on Vick." What I got from Singletary's comments was that Vick wasn't his decision to make and his job was to deal with the players we have. Didn't Jed York already say that the 49ers weren't interested in Vick? Sounds like Matt was trying to stir the pot, which isn't like him. This is a non-story.

Regarding Leonard Little, even though the consequences were worse in his case, the motication wasn't. He got drunk and killed somebody and deserved punishment, but he had no intention of hurting anybody. He just screwed up. Vick over a period of years abused dog after dog and reportedly participated himself in the killing (strangling?) of dogs that didn't acquit themselves well. This is a despicable human being. That kind of evil could just as easily, under different circumstances, be directed toward people. This was not a mistake that remorse can excuse; this is a man with something wrong inside.

I don't think that any team will want to deal with the season ticket cancellations and constant protests that would surely result from signing this man, but the idea that the Yorks are stupid enough to consider it is ridiculous.

Lowell,

TK just broke a very serious and alarming story concerning possible wire fraud and the Warriors' Front Office, specifically, Ray Ridder, on his blog this evening. Interested in your take.

Dear Lowell, I as stated the last time this issue came up, if the niners sign Vick I will no longer watch the niners. Some crimes are heinous, vick's crimes fit this category. I do not believe he rehabilitated himself of a life time of cruelty in only two short years. Even if he did, his access to a well paid public life should be denied and the niners should come forth now and announce that they have no interest in signing him. They do not have to take a stand on his character, though they should, but they should be clear and brave as to where they do stand. This attempt to play both sides will only alienate though of us who see the brutality of Vick's crimes, and will never cheer for a person who has committed these brutal crimes.

Lowell & Ron Fischer: why are your panties in such a bunch? You'd think that Vick was a mass murderer reading your weepy sanctemonious overreactions to something the 49ers haven't even done yet. Come on guys get a grip. What Vick did was wrong. He went to jail as he richly deserved, but now he has done his time, so let it go. Finally, I sure hope the Niners have the good sense not to sign Vick, not because he is a sick dog killer, but because he is, in my view, a crap QB.

I would like to know why people are still talking about Michael Vick at all. Is he a good football player, yes. Could he have been one of the best, yes! Why is his time in the NFL over? Because there are MANY great college athletes who are waiting for their opportunity. They are good kids who have done the right thing and worked hard the entire time. They were told their time will come and they will get their due. They follow faithfully, only to be told a guy with bad character, and one who chose to do the wrong thing, will get a shot before them, which is absurd. This has nothing to do with forgiveness!! This has to do with the fact that some kid out there did right and deserves a shot. Michael Vick gave up his seat and everything that came with it when he chose to do what he did. I am sick and tired of reading the replies of people who enjoy 'killing the messenger' and at the same time have their own issues. The fact is some mentally tough and hard working kids deserve a shot at the BIG TIME and the money and the attention more than the guy who did not do the right thing, period.

Vick will remain a hot topic of discussion. I think it is completely wrong to judge the merits of his crime committed vs. the type of crime that another NFL player had committed.
I think Lowell's point can be summarized by the title of one of Lowell's best posts from the past..."Wrong is wrong".
If we want to use logic and continue to match character to an organization that would sign Vick, it would naturally be the Cincinnati Bengals. That team does not believe in any moral character.

The NFL is so holy that people don't deserve a second chance? Give me a break. This is a game about hitting people, it's not that serious.

As was said on the bastion of all sports knowledge, ESPN (yes, that opening is brimming with sarcasm), this was a non-football related crime. The reason people go to jail is to atone for their wrongdoings, and, sure, often times they return to their cold cells, but that doesn't mean that we can, or should continue to vilify Vick for his actions.

He screwed up. He served his time. Get over it. You're becoming the bitter old man who is scraping the barrel for people to attack. It's nice to see less "I hate Barry Bonds" articles in the PD, it's just unfortunate they're being replaced with this garbage. Put down the pen and retire.

By the way, Vick has a lower lifetime completion percentage than Alex Smith, and Smith played a year with a dislocated shoulder. Long short, Vick was an exciting player because when he wasn't throwing he could run. He's a couple years older now, who knows how fast he runs now.

Vick will be an interesting story until he has to get on the field and compete.

"Put down the pen and retire."

Thank you Dave.