I sat down with Billy Beane before Friday's game against the Orioles to discuss the present state of the A's and the team's future. Here is our Q&A:
Beane: You don't have to worry about nailing me (with my questions). I've been doing this a long time. I've been nailed. I've been praised.
Cohn: Are you emotionally detached from that sort of thing?
Beane: No. I just know it's part of the business - given the choice (he laughs). You may remember an article you wrote on
Cohn: I think he's a brilliant guy. He's a tough and fair leader and he makes hard decisions. And I respect that.
Beane: He was a great mentor. Still is.
Cohn: In spring training you seemed optimistic. Is this season going as you expected it to and how do you feel about it?
Beane: Perfectly fair question. Once we left
Cohn: Have you scaled down your expectations for this season? Let me give some context. I interviewed Macha this spring and afterward he said, "I think the A's are going to come in first. That's a really good team over there."
Beane: It's a different team now than then. I think Kenny was probably seeing the same thing. If you put Chavez at third. If you have Garciaparra floating around playing first, playing third as depth. You have Ellis who's out for almost five weeks now, Duchscherer who was an All Star pitcher the last two years. Devine your closer. If you get those guys back in the mix there's no question you have a different viewpoint. I think that's what Kenny was looking at. It's what we were looking at too. That being said one of the reasons we need to recreate a core is some of the injuries we've had the last few years and the ones we've had this year are the same guys. Quite frankly doing this job long enough, the greatest predictor of future health is somebody's past health. If you have an injury history you're likely to have an injury future. That's just the way it is. We weren't going to be able to out in Eric's case and find another gold-glove third baseman who hits home runs. It's not that easy to find. The optimism was based on the idea those guys would be on the field. They're not. We've been forced to sort of make changes on the fly.
Cohn: I assume you have to reevaluate Eric Chavez and next year he may not be part of the core of this team.
Beane: Eric's realistic. I'm realistic. Obviously we'd like to have him back. He's in the last year of his contract next year. Given the past few years I think we have to be somewhat realistic about going forward, what we're going to do with that position. To just go on and hope for another year probably isn't a great business plan.
Cohn: I understand what you're doing with your pitching. I believe in it. What about the other eight guys? Would I assume Nomar is hurt and we may not see him? And Giambi?
Beane: Jason's got one year. Duke's a free agent. Cabrera's on a one-year deal. Ellis has got two years and an option. Sweeney's a young guy. Jack, this is his third year. I'm just going around the diamond. Cunningham's obviously a rookie. Travis Buck is only a second year. There's a few guys whose contracts expire at the end of the year but there's still quite a few young guys. We always with a young team want to have some veteran presence around. Those individual questions I'll probably better answer at the end of the year. If your team is young and homegrown that's cost effective for this market. That's difficult to do but it's the ultimate goal. The past history in
Cohn: Do you have players in your minor-league system who can come up? Are you confident in them?
Beane: We have a good system. It's just now starting to mature. We've got some position players. One of the kids we got in the Blanton deal last year along with Outman, Adrian Cardenas is hitting .386. He's an infielder, second baseman. There may be a time we'll consider him at third because he's such a good hitter with a real good throwing arm. And Jamile Weeks so we do have some kids coming. Other objective sources, the Baseball Americas and people who evaluate, last year we were evaluated as one of the top five systems in the game. We need to keep adding to that. Our farm system had become pretty depleted over the last decade. We put everything we had into the major-league team trying to stay successful and we had not been as conscious of reinvesting at the minor-league level the way a small-market team has to. You're kind of choosing and we wanted to take advantage of the group of players we had here.
Cohn: If the season continues more or less like this and you're not going to be a contender in the division, do you at a certain point make a decision -- I need to play younger people and not older people? As a result, Holliday is expendable. Maybe Jason is expendable. At a certain point do we say I tried it's not going to work, I want to play Aaron Cunningham.
Beane: Normally had I not known you as long as I've been here, and if you were an out-of-town reporter asking me that, I'd say it's really a waste of time to speculate on that question. But I will answer it for you. It's really not simple. I'll take Matt because he's the highest profile guy we got. People are going to ask that question from this point going forward. Obviously you want to win as many games and you're always trying to compete and you're always trying to win the division no matter what your chances are. But as I said earlier for us it's really important to develop these young pitchers and part of that development process is having guys around them that give them a better chance of succeeding. Matt certainly fits into that category. Now from a future standpoint going forward because that's part of your question - "OK that's great but you worry about four or five years down the road not just these next few months." In Matt's case, at the end of the season he's going to be a high-profile free agent, we would receive two first-round picks for Matt if he goes somewhere else. (Note: It's a little more complicated than this.) Those are really valuable to a club like ours. So there would have to be a lot for us to be inspired to do something with him. We like the value of having him here. Having him out there when a Brett Anderson takes the mound and he's in
Cohn: You always seem to me lighthearted and vivacious.
Beane: I'm not always lighthearted.
Cohn: Do you go through periods where you think this season didn't work out and I'm angry at myself?
Beane: Oh, yeah, absolutely. Listen, I'm responsible for the entire organization and in some respects the success of the organization probably lies on my shoulders more than anybody, which means there are people who work from the top to the bottom of this organization that are somewhat reliant upon me making good decisions. I'm every bit as competitive as I always was. I've been doing this job long enough to realize there are cycles. I've been through all the cycles, up down, up down. In some respects it is part of our market. Everyone's tired of hearing this is part of the market. I'll say it. I'll leave it at that. I choose the challenges of this market and I am aware we are going to have good moments if we do our job right and there's going to be trying times. If I hadn't gone through it, it would be more difficult. But I know the cycles. I know you're going to make mistakes but we're not going to let those mistakes paralyze us into not doing something. Having done this job long enough, great times never last and bad times never last. The best thing you can do is maintain that balance in your decision making. If you made bad decisions examine why you made them and try and correct them. I love this job a ton. I love the challenges. There's times you go gosh, if some teams have injuries they just go out and get (players), they have four or five guys. But winning here is incredibly satisfying beyond the fact that you're doing it with less and I get to live here. I love living here. Living in the Bay Area there is perspective and when you walk into Starbucks whether you've had a good game or a bad game there is some perspective with the people. There are some markets - I have friends who are in bigger baseball markets - it's not that easy to go out. You're either the greatest guy in the town or the worst guy.
Cohn: I have emails from people who say Billy prefers to stay in
Beane: No. No. Believe me, pressure is self-induced. People say when you stay in a small market you don't want the pressure of having more money. Listen, when you run a major-league sports franchise people on a daily basis don't get up and say, "It's OK they lost because their payroll's only X." It doesn't happen. The expectation level in every market is the same. So I don't buy that.
Cohn: When you say you are not always vivacious, when things don't go well do you sit at home with the blinds drawn?
Beane: No. I don't take my job home. It's a learned thing. I don't talk about work at home unless I have to because of a phone call. I rarely take phone calls at night. I've learned to separate the two. You know, I want to live a long time. If anything my wife gets into it at home and sometimes I say, "Let's talk about the Niners."
Cohn: Do you expect your team to be significantly better next year?
Beane: That's a tough question to answer. It's not like I'm avoiding the question. The most enjoyable part of this job is when you're getting better, your young players are making progress, you can see that progress and you know you've got the next few years ahead of you. I want us to have progress that's not just tangible to me. I want it so that every fan goes wow. So that everyone can say that. I can't answer that because I don't know but I look at the
Cohn: Is Bob Geren the manager for this team going forward?
Beane: Until a manager is given players that are good enough to consistently win it's hard to hold them responsible. Ultimately that's my responsibility - to give him good players. Quite frankly for Bob we haven't done that. The idea that we can slash the payroll, trade the best players and expect him to perform at an ALCS level is not completely fair. We had a team in spring training but he's never really had that team. He and the staff will be more responsible when we feel like we've given him players or he has players in the field that are good enough to win. To read my column on Beane click here.
I haven't had enough time to fully absorb this, but I bristle whenever Beane cops out and calls the A's a "small market" team. That's BS!
the A's are cheap. they're not small market. There's a difference!